Career? What Career?

I'm on my way to being in this situation. I'm 21.

I did crap at A-Level/Level 3 studies at college, and my past 3 jobs have been temporary positions, nothing stable, and this week I have just been wokring at Royal Birkdale for The Open all week, but after that I'll be back looking for jobs which ahave dried up so bad in my town.

I've been thinking about Uni, and most likely going to get an application into somewhere and see if they will take me, even though I have pretty much sod all at A-Level quals :(
 
I was in exactly the same situation only a few months ago. 24, living at home and working a IT Support job with no prospects. I found making the decision as to what I wanted to do, with what I thought was the rest of my life, too scary to make. The trick for me was doing some Volunteer work in the stuff I enjoyed doing and getting a feel for things that way. After a few months I knew what I wanted to do and jumped straight in.

My advice would be to pick a few things you enjoy doing, get some experience anyway you can in the professional aspects of those things with your spare time. Getting some new experiences, meeting some new people might well spark some idea of what you want to do. Going though the same old routine day after day and just thinking about stuff won't do anything to inspire you. You need to get out there. You'll also need to decide whether your more motivated by money or by enjoyment of your job, a crucial factor in choosing career.

Good luck, I know exactly how it feels.
 
Dont worry mate, I'm working at the moment but about 2 years ago I didnt know what I wanted to do but my sister since she was 16 knew what she wanted to do... I think its just dependant on who you are...

Stelly
 
Academically, I'm great. But I sure didn't do good. If that makes any sense. I've only studied up to Level 3, but I'm sure I could get a place on a Uni course as a mature student. I forgot to mention though, that I'm really not to keen on that route. I know it'd be good for me, but 3 years and all that debt...

My hobbies are Music (Guitar), Web Development, Graphic Design and Language. I've always loved the idea of working in the Web Dev field, but for some reason I'm really put-off by it despite people loving my work. Especially the Design aspects. I just don't think there is a lot of work in programming/design and in the future, it might just dry-up and I'd be left with some useless skills, no job, a sad wife and 2 starving kids.

... :p

That's the same with any job though, starving kids can come from anywhere! From what I've seen you do seem to be quite good in the web dev field. Why are you put off it? is it the job security or the aspect of working with computers?

I'm at the age where you're worrying where you might be and don't worry I'm still not sure where I'm going. What I do know is that after 10 years in the web industry (with no training - I'm self employed) I'm making very good money and getting to live where I want. Though this is mostly to do with my other half I can follow her around the world and get paid London rates from wherever. Currently in Delhi at the moment and flying to Moscow tonight for a few days... see you can do it!
 
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Uknowist, I guess we're not all alone. Most people hate their jobs eventually and probably just put up with it for the sake of having some money/stability. But I'm quite different in that I really can't do anything I don't enjoy. Maybe if I had a child or a wife, I would, but I don't.. so it's the same old ball, rolling around and around.

I've also thought about being a Paramedic once or twice before but I never looked into it. As for the Armed Forces, it does seem like a good opportunity, but I'm not sure what I could offer them to be honest.

Neoboy, those spanners are a *****, eh? Had a fair few myself over the years. What degree did you apply for at Newcastle?

Be a paramedic in the Air Force!? Join as a Medic, do 3 or 4 years (Admin, IT, some clinical), apply for civvy paramedic training...get paid your RAF salary to do it....NHS placements.....easy!
 
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I have hobbies, and things I find interesting but they're hardly realistic in terms of a career move. Some people say I should just go for it anyway, but I'm not sure if I can take that risk anymore. If I mess up, I'll be 30 before I know it and that's just not good.

That's exactly the reason that I'd choose to do something, otherwise you'll end up 30 and have been too scared to try.

I'm changing jobs soon - although I've no idea how easy it would be. I decided to do this after falling 40ft onto my ass and getting up with only bruises and a broken foot.
 
Same situation mate! Just got my degree, but have no idea what I wanna do next. Im 22, just finished uni, now I just need to find out what I want to do.

On one hand its rubbish cos I keep thinking "What now??!" and feeling a bit lost. On the other hand, I think, Im 22 years old, I have my degree, and no real direction, so now is the right time to choose where to take my life. Chin up :)

Work a little, save up and go travelling.

As much as i loved going uni straight into a job (well 6months apart ;)) I wish I had saved up some money and gone away for a bit, as it'l get increasingly harder the longer I'm employed.
 
I don't see the issue tbh.. as long as you make ends meet and enjoy yourself, why the need for a career? Why not make a career out of changing jobs every 2 years or so? Loads of people do it, infact the days of people spending 30+ years in the same job are long gone.
 
Overtone I've always thought you were quite skilled in the web-design area. As a Graphic Design graduate I can say that the industry is desperate for people like you. Pretty much 90% of this years graduates are more interesting in print-based, rather than web-based design and the industry is the exact opposite.

I was at the D&AD New Blood exhibition at Earls Court back in June and most of the people from industry were looking for web designers. With your programming skills I'm sure you would be an asset to any company.

I don't think it matters that you don't have a degree either, let your portfolio do the talking rather than qualifications. From my experience a little bit of persistence and a good portfolio goes a long way compared to a degree. However, this does rely on a lot of motivation on your part which you seem to be lacking. As you say you need a kick up the back-side.

Here's what I would do in your situation (because I've just done the same thing ;))

1. Create an online portfolio with all of your current work up to date.

2. Google some design agencies and see what kind of area you're most interested in, then contact those agencies and see if they need a web designer or if they offer a placement scheme.

A very important thing to note here is that you should never e-mail the '[email protected]' address. Phone the company and ask reception for the personal e-mail or phone number of the person in charge of placements/jobs.


3. Use graduate jobseeking websites to find entry-level positions at agencies. It doesn't matter that you're not a graduate. The companies are looking for employees and you might be better than all of the people with degrees who apply. The fact that you are actively looking for work shows initiative and a willingness to work.

4. If you can't get a job straight-out, don't be afraid to do a 4 or 6 week placement (assuming you can afford to move to where ever the placement is). Placements will give you a few opportunities which you wouldn't necessarily get in a full-time job. You can see whether you like the job or the area of the industry which the company works in. You can see if you like the area of the country where the company is based. You will be building up your CV and portfolio with real-world briefs. You will be making contacts with the people you work with. They can be a big help in finding you work even if they can't offer you a full time position. Word of mouth is a valuable tool and if you make an impression on them during your placement they will pass on your name to their friends and associates.

The above is just a start to get the ball rolling, get your foot in the door *insert clichéd metaphor here* etc but it's a start which is more than you have at the minute. If you're not interesting in the design side of things any more then promote your programming skills to the same companies - everyone needs a good programmer to put the designers in their place and tell them what can and can't be achieved with code. :p

If you have any questions about it don't hesitate to ask in here or e-mail me (address in trust).

Panzer
 
You sound like me.

24, Check!
Mediocre A Levels, Check! (I wasn't really motivated to do them, as i didn't know what I wanted to do with my life)
No Degree, Check! (Dropped out of Uni twice, as I hated the courses I was on. At least I know I really wouldn't like being an IT Tech)

I playing with the idea of doing a degree in Computer Graphic Design at the minute, as its the part of my current job that I enjoy the most....but meh, I'm not too sure if I would want to do it for the rest of my life.


We should have a Fight Club. Sorted.
 
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I playing with the idea of doing a degree in Computer Graphic Design at the minute, as its the part of my current job that I enjoy the most....but meh, I'm not too sure if I would want to do it for the rest of my life.

While I'm not saying that degrees are under-rated (though I have one in Geology rather than IT) I'd look carefully as to whether you really think it will help your career rather than just getting good experience. Nearly all the freelance and contract people I hire don't have degrees in graphic design or computer science, they just have good skills, talent and are prepared to work.
 
While I'm not saying that degrees are under-rated (though I have one in Geology rather than IT) I'd look carefully as to whether you really think it will help your career rather than just getting good experience. Nearly all the freelance and contract people I hire don't have degrees in graphic design or computer science, they just have good skills, talent and are prepared to work.

Thing is, I'm a bit stuck at the minute. How do I move on to a better job for example? Its not as if I have any qualifications to show them. I didn't even do art at A Level. Do you have to put a portfolio together? the only things I've ever done are for work, I can't exactly whip out a load of peoples posters, banners, business cards, fliers, etc that I've done in the past.
 
A degree for the sake of it when you do not seem interested in such a thing would be a mistake.

Get a job in a career whereby you are trained along the way... Finance, construction, armed forces whatever takes your fancy. Well maybe not construction right now ...

Just have a look at everything and then see what you would like to be doing in 5 - 10 years time.
 
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