His 100m PB is 9.87 seconds, there's only a handful of men throughout history who have run that fast.
Chambers Loses Olympic Appeal
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His 100m PB is 9.87 seconds, there's only a handful of men throughout history who have run that fast.
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how many athletes took supplements of some kind that for years were legal, weren't legal any more stopped taking them but still got to where they were because of those supplements. At the end of the day its all this natural vs unnatural crap, but what if someone has low testosterone levels and pumps them up only to have similar levels to people who get very naturally high levels?
He was stupid to take them but just because others haven't been caught, doesn't mean countless others don't take stuff on the very edge of whats legally allowed, countless others do take illegal things and countless numbers of people have different hormone levels anyway so its all rather trivial. WHat if you can right now find a supplement that boosts your testosterone higher than the stuff he took, but is legal, its fairly retarded rulings tbh. People who simply take too much testosterone, put on way to much muscle will end up slower at running due to weight, bulk and not being able to run smoothly.
Couldn't care less to a certain degree of supplementing the body, its hardly like people are doing drugs, and then knocking 30% off the times of everyone else.
He was stupid to take them but just because others haven't been caught, doesn't mean countless others don't take stuff on the very edge of whats legally allowed, countless others do take illegal things and countless numbers of people have different hormone levels anyway so its all rather trivial. WHat if you can right now find a supplement that boosts your testosterone higher than the stuff he took, but is legal, its fairly retarded rulings tbh. People who simply take too much testosterone, put on way to much muscle will end up slower at running due to weight, bulk and not being able to run smoothly.
Couldn't care less to a certain degree of supplementing the body, its hardly like people are doing drugs, and then knocking 30% off the times of everyone else.
while I know thats fast it was with the aid of drugs, I have friends who are running 10.05 seconds and are only 18/19. I'm sure with drugs they could be world record breakers.
Just one of the guys I know:
http://www.directathletics.com/athletes/track/788542.html
If you compare this to Dwaynes 400m time it's not very far off at all. A few years and I dont doubt he will be faster the chambers.
The other guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xavier_Carter
He is already beating chambers.
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The 3rd fastest time ever in 200metres puts him in the top 0.000001% of performers in the world, its hardly saying, oh this random local guy i know, he could be Chambers, so he's not that good.
The 9.87 is third fastest in Europe and done in 2002, possibly before he was doping aswell. Meh, tbh he's not likely to put in that good a showing, for someone not competing for years, and getting older you can't imagine him doing that well anyway and his current times aren't mind blowing, but he should still be allowed to compete.
umm in 2006 Xavier ran the second fastest 200m time ever.... So yeah this local guy can beat dwayne.
I dont even see Dwayne Chambers on the world fastest 200m times....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/200_metres#All-time_fastest_200_m_athletes
I dont even see Dwayne Chambers on the world fastest 200m times....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/200_metres#All-time_fastest_200_m_athletes
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My point was your post came across as, hey these local guys I know, they can beat Chambers so he's not even that good. WHen infact the guys, one of them at least, is one of the worlds best, my point was you are comparing two VERY highly rated runners, not Chambers the has been against a runner at my local club. Also don't remember saying Chambers had a great 200metre time, all i said was the guy you linked was one of the top in the world already, I don't see how that makes CHambers bad or not very fast so not really sure why you mentioned it.
To be honest, the difference between a 10.05 and a 9.87, is ridiculously large in terms of rankings, it might appear a small difference, but in terms of medals, and competing its the difference between a Gold and being dead last in the first round.(or could be anyway).
Not everyone actually does well on steroids, some people get ill, have side effects that stop them training, or gain to much muscle all over effecting weight and times negatively. He actually did very well in 2002 and did worse in 2003 when he had started taking drugs. Its not some guarentee, take steroids, your times will reduce.
THough they can of course help, Marion Jones, THG, 3 golds wasn't it at 2000. Not sure when she got found out tbh, did she have her medals taken away from her?
EDIT;- Damn, Jones has been in jail since March, 6 month sentence, thats what you get for lying to two grand jurys. You have to wonder though, if the drugs are long since gone from her system, and she was never tested with them in her, and she'd lied to two grand jurys why did she later on admit it and screw herself so completely. Stripped of all records and possibly had to pay back prize money(chambers had to aswell), jail term and complete and utter end of her career. Long fall from that far on top.
To be honest, the difference between a 10.05 and a 9.87, is ridiculously large in terms of rankings, it might appear a small difference, but in terms of medals, and competing its the difference between a Gold and being dead last in the first round.(or could be anyway).
Not everyone actually does well on steroids, some people get ill, have side effects that stop them training, or gain to much muscle all over effecting weight and times negatively. He actually did very well in 2002 and did worse in 2003 when he had started taking drugs. Its not some guarentee, take steroids, your times will reduce.
THough they can of course help, Marion Jones, THG, 3 golds wasn't it at 2000. Not sure when she got found out tbh, did she have her medals taken away from her?
EDIT;- Damn, Jones has been in jail since March, 6 month sentence, thats what you get for lying to two grand jurys. You have to wonder though, if the drugs are long since gone from her system, and she was never tested with them in her, and she'd lied to two grand jurys why did she later on admit it and screw herself so completely. Stripped of all records and possibly had to pay back prize money(chambers had to aswell), jail term and complete and utter end of her career. Long fall from that far on top.
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The thing is, use of steroids being banned is due to it being an unfair advantage and creating an unbalanced playing field for others to compete. But the very basis of that assumes the fact that their is a balanced playing field in the first place, which is impossible, and ridiculous, to begin with. Everyone has varying hormone levels of all kinds, test, estrogen, growth hormones and a whole host of other things. Not to mention that all the time people are spending literally millions making the next THG, an undetectable performance enhancer that probably a dozen of the worlds best in various disciplines are on right now anyway and will never be caught.
SCrew it, make a new competition, where you can do whatever you want, take whatever you want, and we see what happens, keep the olympics for the naturals(and cheaters). IF everyones cheating, its not a problem, when half of them hide they are cheating, it is an unbalanced playing field and every person who ever runs a ridiculous time will always be second guessed as to what he's on.
SCrew it, make a new competition, where you can do whatever you want, take whatever you want, and we see what happens, keep the olympics for the naturals(and cheaters). IF everyones cheating, its not a problem, when half of them hide they are cheating, it is an unbalanced playing field and every person who ever runs a ridiculous time will always be second guessed as to what he's on.
If I was him I would consider running for another country and tell GB to stuff it by beating every runner that runs for them and do it clean- Oh he already has lol
Now all he has to do is run against every other drug cheat at the Olympics.
Now all he has to do is run against every other drug cheat at the Olympics.
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washed up? hes the fastest man in GB.
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I think that is perhaps the saddest thing of the whole sorry affair, I'm not sure who has done it 'legitimately' now, of the fastest times ever set I've got to wonder who was clean at the time.
I did think he might try to represent someone else but I'm not entirely sure who else he has parental links to so it might be a no go on that level.
Christie never ran in the Olympics AFTER he was caught, he was already semi-retired
Why should it all it showed in either of those cases was that they were very stupid - they were proven to actually be clean which is a totally different thing
He SHOULD be completely banned imo, I never said otherwise
No cheat should ever be given a second chance, it devalues the sport for me and most of the other athletes despise them and for good reason.
Most athletes train and train for years, without "extra" help and want to compete on a level playing field, cheats are a disgrace.
Most athletes train and train for years, without "extra" help and want to compete on a level playing field, cheats are a disgrace.
Cause he cheated.
He wasnt fast enough without cheating, he isnt the fastest man anywhere, the drugs he used have long term effects on his physique.
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It's one thing getting caught and admitting it was a mistake but he lied through his teeth, got his colleagues to back him then said it was part and parcel of the sport rather than apologise. Glad the smug **** has lost his appeal.