Does weightlifting make you ruder or just less tolerent to crap?

Ultra_Extreme

Ultra_Extreme

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Apologies if i cant say crap in the title, FF mod as you feel necessary.

To the point, does doing weights, getting bigger, feeling superior, make you a ruder person? Or does it just make you less inclined to take crap and hassle lying down?

What brought this up was a trip out today, i was driving through a local largish town around midday. A customer called me up and i was at some lights, no cops about so i answered, quickley arranged a callback and hung up before the lights changed, no harm no foul i thought. But whilst on the phone this fat old dude outside a pub alongside shouts "Get of the "!£$%& phone you "£!£ !!!" insert the F and C words as necessary. Upon hanging up i open the door and climb out and toss my yoghurt (my poor lunch) at this guy. He gets a headfull of strawberry and mango on his face and stares in disbelief as i yell "I was stopped you old "£$% !" back at him. I climb back in my car and drive off.

I dont think i was unreasonable, apart from raising my voice i was calm and didnt 'see red' i just refused to accept someone doing that to me. Does it make me rude? I mean i WAS somewhat in the wrong and i know after a few beers i might yell at some bloke in a saloon for being on the phone if i had reason to take umbridge. But its spreading to other areas, i cant abide fat people any more (as in obese not just a bit chunky), and if they are the moany thyroid blaming brigade i actually wish them dead. Vegetarians bug me more than ever with their picky finickety ways (NO SUBWAY MAN LEAVE THE CHICKEN GLOVES ON AND CHOKE THE SKINNY COW!!!). Smarmy, slimy cocky streaks of pee in clubs are just begging to get smashed through a wall when they try coming on to my missus. It just seems like the world is full of idiots.....and yet i know its not. Thats whats wrong. My emotions have taken on an extreme case of the overconfidence variety, yet my brain obviously knows this full well or i couldnt post in a balanced way.

So the question is, have i gotten ruder and more balshy, or am i only now feeling like i can stand above the imbaciles of this world and yell "NO! im not listening to your crap anymore!" Hopefully its the latter and im not off down the chris benoit path (to do so WITHOUT substance abuse might screw the liberals tho!). I think im just tired of all those times where omeone has done something and ive walked away wishing id said ""£$$"£ YOU! Im not proud or ashamed of the person im becoming, i dont know if it will lead to good or bad. But i'd like to hear the opinions of other BB's or even just your own experience of increasingly dominant presence, confidence and even ability. Have you become calm and composed like the giant bearded tatoo'd bikers you meet? Or maybe youve become sharper more aware, perhaps like me you've had it with jerks and rude mother$"$£%% and dont want to take it anymore?

Thoughts etc?

[edit] Coincidentally relevent post on t-nation that i apparently cant linky
 
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No disrespect to you Ultra but I think you were rude but not only that more than a little over the top to have simply not ignored him. Maybe this was a one-off? To be honest I have been a "little" hasty at times myself. The problem being the situation could have easily got out of hand if it had have been somebody other than an old man. I mean if somebody had have thrown a yoghurt at me it would have been blood because it is just not on. Of course I am a very strong ***** ****** such as yourself. In fairness to you the bloke didn't have to give you the attitude he did. Just my opinion.

I had a situation with throwing somebody off a bus for deliberately shoving me out of the way a number of times prior to getting on it. Simply because I thought I was in the right and I probably was. But on reflection I began to think whether it was really worth the effort and whether I should have gone to that extreme. Thats the point. Hey you are at least living up to your sig (Extreme). just ignore it and put it down to experience and channel that anger.

Edit: Somebody is bound to say I am wrong here lol
 
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I can have a short fuse on some things - but 99% of the time I'm quite laid back in my behaviour. In fact I'm so tolerant that when I do lose my temper people are often shocked. I do speak up when I disagree with someone, like the phone thing. I shouted out "get off your bloody phone" whilst doing a "phone" up to the head sign. The guy took exception and did a dangerous U turn pulled up next to me asking me what I wanted... I told him not to use the phone whilst driving, and that I Was doing him a favour. He told me some choice words and disappeared. However I wasn't aggressive about it, just shrugged and got back to my euphoric chill out album in my nice air conditioned car :p

I think you over reacted myself, if I had been a by-stander I'd have probably had said a few words to you, but again a "hey what you doing?" rather than anything hugely aggressive. I don't swear at people until they annoy me - and only then is it rare. I'm just a placid person really. Must be my Mediterranean roots! :D I do think you went OTT, and really wasn't a need for it.

I'm a naturally passionate person, but I don't feel more aggressive since training, but I feel a lot more "switched on" so to speak.
 
Ultra_Extreme said:
What brought this up was a trip out today, i was driving through a local largish town around midday. A customer called me up and i was at some lights, no cops about so i answered, quickley arranged a callback and hung up before the lights changed, no harm no foul i thought. But whilst on the phone this fat old dude outside a pub alongside shouts "Get of the "!£$%& phone you "£!£ !!!" insert the F and C words as necessary. Upon hanging up i open the door and climb out and toss my yoghurt (my poor lunch) at this guy. He gets a headfull of strawberry and mango on his face and stares in disbelief as i yell "I was stopped you old "£$% !" back at him. I climb back in my car and drive off.
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If you'd done that to some big 20+ stone skinhead it might have been acceptable, if not a little bit foolish haha! :D

To do it to some old bloke is bang out of order and in the nicest way possible... I think you really need to take a look at yourself... and chill the **** out..?
 
I don't work out to become a bully. Perhaps you were just feeling frustrated, because doing weights does not make me more aggressive.
 
rofl, is that serious of a copy and paste from somewhere ?

im rather calm and always have been, today is an example. me, the wife and my boy were in the park, my wife went to the car to get jake's drink, she came back and told me that 2 ****s almost ran her over and laughed at her when she told them to slow down (because its next to a busy kids park). the 2 idiots went over to play tennis. nothing to them, wimpy little streaks of wee that I would have ripped new holes in. But, i didnt. i made sure she was ok and we carrid on with our day.

When we were leaving they were convieniently leaving at the same time, they noticed the wife and then noticed me, they had their heads down pretty quickly hehe.
 
Chong Warrior said:
If you'd done that to some big 20+ stone skinhead it might have been acceptable, if not a little bit foolish haha! :D

To do it to some old bloke is bang out of order and in the nicest way possible... I think you really need to take a look at yourself... and chill the **** out..?
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To be fair we aint talking about a hobbling 70-something, im talking fat self-righteous 50-60 yr old. I would say "he thought he was the dogs" but thats just my opinion and for all i know he had a kid killed by someone driving on the phone and was understandably peeved. I think however he thought "young guy, flash [for round here] car, on phone, "£$% " But i do think people should accept that their actions, and words, have repercussions.

Morba: To be fair id never throw a yoghurt at you, ever, no matter what you said. (for referece look for pics)
 
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ethan said:
No disrespect to you Ultra but I think you were rude but not only that more than a little over the top to have simply not ignored him. Maybe this was a one-off? To be honest I have been a "little" hasty at times myself. The problem being the situation could have easily got out of hand if it had have been somebody other than an old man. I mean if somebody had have thrown a yoghurt at me it would have been blood because it is just not on. Of course I am a very strong ***** ****** such as yourself. In fairness to you the bloke didn't have to give you the attitude he did. Just my opinion.

I had a situation with throwing somebody off a bus for deliberately shoving me out of the way a number of times prior to getting on it. Simply because I thought I was in the right and I probably was. But on reflection I began to think whether it was really worth the effort and whether I should have gone to that extreme. Thats the point. Hey you are at least living up to your sig (Extreme). just ignore it and put it down to experience and channel that anger.

Edit: Somebody is bound to say I am wrong here lol
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Thanks for your balanced response. I take no offence where the point is well made. Your totally right, i put myself in a position that could easily have become out of hand. Police could have come by, a big bloke, versed in kung fu could have come out and beat me down (heck i have a m8 who is 10st and 5'7", trained in kung fu and he would destroy me even if i had a weapon!). So your right, it was a bad decision for sure, but one i was less scared of making and i dont exactly know why,
 
There can be a lot of external factors it also doesn't necessarily have to be the weights either. Perhaps you just need to chill out a little like everybody else you're only human.
 
But i do think people should accept that their actions, and words, have repercussions.
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As you say, if police came by you could potentially now be facing a charge of assault and a criminal record, perhaps think about that next time and accept that your actions could have repercussions too?

FWIW I think that's a pretty poor attitude to have, that because you lift weights you're superior to other people, you aren't some superhuman because you decide to spend time in the gym instead of other pursuits.

That said, I don't think it's an unheard of attitude in any field where people dedicate a lot of time to, for example you get holier-than-thou charity types who spend all their time doing charity work and think they're better than other people, or high-earning businessmen who think their bank balance makes them better than other people, success in any field is all well and good but if you let it get to your head it just breeds arrogance, not an attractive personality trait in the slightest.
 
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Freefaller said:
I can have a short fuse on some things - but 99% of the time I'm quite laid back in my behaviour. In fact I'm so tolerant that when I do lose my temper people are often shocked.

I'm a naturally passionate person, but I don't feel more aggressive since training, but I feel a lot more "switched on" so to speak.
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Dude i gotta meet you one day because you sound a lot like me. My post aside, im just like that usually, at least pre training. One of those people where if i yelled everyone would go "dude! calm down!" even though some of my mates would yell at everyone and no one would say anything. I've always been known as Mr Mellow. Thats why recent developments have surprised me so.

Another recent example is me and a m8 went into a local to play pool. We whacked on metallica and stacked up the 20's (happens to be the kung fu master friend i mentioned earlier) during our match some chavs turn up (its on the second floor of the bar with no line of sight to the main bar) they are young maybe 18-19. They put a few 20's on the table and retire to the corner with the jukebox. Immediatley after the last verse of "Run to the hils" by maiden, we hear the familiar R+B toones of some crap soft rap group.

Now fair enough, you like what you like, but i go "What tit put this crap on" Looking over at these 4 chavs/kids (i play my shot looking at them, i miss, it would have been cooler if i hadn't) they all look down and go quiet. My mate comes up for his shot, chuckling under his breath, he says "I HATE you when your big". He has known me for years, mostly as a mellow, slightly chubby very unagressive guy. But he's a fantastic fighter and scared of no one so he just thinks its ballsy and amusing. The chavs leave and we play their 20's. I was a bully, i dont deny it, i played the size/confidence card and didnt get challenged. I was proud of myself in a funny way because with their skinheads and their general chavvy mannerisms THEY were already playing the intimidation card and i called it. I dont feel bad but it was probably wrong
 
i myself might be sounding rude here but it sounds like your becoming a bit full of yourself, much like i have seen with some other people who have trained religiously, they have started to see themselves as superior to others. maybe training has an affect on the mind ?

and to throw a yoghurt at somebody because they gave you grief? of course thats unacceptable, your lucky you havent been lifted for it
 
Rich_L said:
As you say, if police came by you could potentially now be facing a charge of assault and a criminal record, perhaps think about that next time and accept that your actions could have repercussions too?

FWIW I think that's a pretty poor attitude to have, that because you lift weights you're superior to other people, you aren't some superhuman because you decide to spend time in the gym instead of other pursuits.

That said, I don't think it's an unheard of attitude in any field where people dedicate a lot of time to, for example you get holier-than-thou charity types who spend all their time doing charity work and think they're better than other people, or high-earning businessmen who think their bank balance makes them better than other people, success in any field is all well and good but if you let it get to your head it just breeds arrogance, not an attractive personality trait in the slightest.
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More than any thing i think its control, the more i see people try and fail to control their own bodies, quitting smoking, drinking, junk food. The more i despise the weaknesses inherent in humanity, and yes the more i elevate myself above that. I'm not holier than thou i dont think, i give everyone a chance. But i am disappointed by how pathetic some people allow themselves to be
 
Christ you're a ******.

It's their bodies. They can do whatever the hell they want with them.

And you are no better than they are.
 
You say you despise weakness in others but you have shown your own weakness in failing to control yourself. A response like that is totally unnecessary, an "elevated" person would have risen above it.
 
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