Is it time for a complete overhaul of the law?
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But you are commenting on something without the full facts behind it, reading upon the topic will give you more insight and understanding into why the law is the way it is. No way did i say you are not entitled to your opinion, but your opinion will have more weight if you know deeper into the subject.
Yeah... a few, but nothing relevant to this thread though.
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I think the system isnt as bad as its made out to be - I just think the people enforcing it are a complete joke.
If the government overhauled our legal system it'd be worse than it is now.
Everything labour touches turns to **** nowadays, the new laws would probably stop officers arresting chavs for beating up and burning old women because it incites class hatred.
As much as it sucks, unless they can get a group of normal people to do it, no.
Everything labour touches turns to **** nowadays, the new laws would probably stop officers arresting chavs for beating up and burning old women because it incites class hatred.
As much as it sucks, unless they can get a group of normal people to do it, no.
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Scrap the human rights charter and start killing all the rapists, murderers and paedophiles. Enough is enough.
The human rights chapter cannot be scraped, to scape that we have to leave the European Union as it is part of the treaty.
So let's leave it then.
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You think it is that simple? The repercussions would be huge financially, legislatively, politically and most importantly on a human level.
No, in other words you're not considering the things we would have to throw away, material and moral, just to satisfy your bloodthirsty and over-emotional desire to murder criminals. Thank god people like you are not in charge.
You do understand that somebody capable of committing such extreme acts probably have absolutely no idea of what they are doing, and are probably completely and utterly bat**** insane, right?
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Crime is up, massively, reporting isn't better. Hearing about the worse crimes happens a little more often, but its not like 25 years ago you didn't hear about murders on the other side of the country from papers, we've always had papers to get effective news, we just get it from tv rather than a paper(most of us now).
But people are reporting less crimes as theres simply less and less point. People don't want the hassel of being a witness to a group of chavs beating someone up as they are putting themselves in danger when the outcome is likely, smeg all. Even if the chavs get off, they still want revenge so theres no upside anymore, like putting someone away for an appropriate amount of time.
Either way, changing the laws is pointless, we have a problem prosecuting because of the quality and numbers of people working vs number of cases they have to cover. Its simply an overloaded system, a reworked law system would still be overloaded, the problem is in government targets, specifically reducing sentences so they won't be forced to build more prisons. Unfortunately, the more people get away with crimes, the more crimes they do.
SO say a guy stabs someone, should get 5 years, but gets out in 1, then commits another 5 crimes in that remaining 4 years he should have been in jail, thats 4 more cases that need to get sorted, thats lots of police hours, lawyer hours, paperwork hours, then the actual case, court costs of everyone involved. By not building new jails the cost of repeatedly putting the same guys on trial time and time again is much worse than the cost of keeping them in jail.
Its all a complete joke, government mess that they can't fix because they won't. Like every other service in this country, its on a long downward spiral that has no chance of being fixed while the government continue as is.
But people are reporting less crimes as theres simply less and less point. People don't want the hassel of being a witness to a group of chavs beating someone up as they are putting themselves in danger when the outcome is likely, smeg all. Even if the chavs get off, they still want revenge so theres no upside anymore, like putting someone away for an appropriate amount of time.
Either way, changing the laws is pointless, we have a problem prosecuting because of the quality and numbers of people working vs number of cases they have to cover. Its simply an overloaded system, a reworked law system would still be overloaded, the problem is in government targets, specifically reducing sentences so they won't be forced to build more prisons. Unfortunately, the more people get away with crimes, the more crimes they do.
SO say a guy stabs someone, should get 5 years, but gets out in 1, then commits another 5 crimes in that remaining 4 years he should have been in jail, thats 4 more cases that need to get sorted, thats lots of police hours, lawyer hours, paperwork hours, then the actual case, court costs of everyone involved. By not building new jails the cost of repeatedly putting the same guys on trial time and time again is much worse than the cost of keeping them in jail.
Its all a complete joke, government mess that they can't fix because they won't. Like every other service in this country, its on a long downward spiral that has no chance of being fixed while the government continue as is.
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That doesn't matter, if someones so warped they simply can't function normally, at this point you can never become normal. Its a paradox type situation. Someone murders 10 people, eats the brains, gets put in a mental institution, through therapy becomes completley normal. A completely normal person could not live with themselves having murdered people in such a horrible manner, the guilt of living with what they've done would send them crazy, theres just no way someone like that could be normal ever again. So they have life in an mental institution so whacked out on drugs unable to even think straight at a large cost, or are well, humanely put down.
Personally, right now, if I could choose between being kept alive, completely unable to function as a human being in a institution for life with no chance of rehabilitation or simply being allowed to die, I'd choose to die. The same way if I had a massive brain injury from a car crash, I'd prefer to be put out of my misery than live in a bed unable to function.
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I'm interested which are the victimless crimes? And what laws contradict each other? There may be some but I'd like to hear some of what you think they are.
Uh oh, I sense a derailment into piracy discussion.
Abort, abort, abandon thread. *Releases parachute.*
Edit: Seems I was wrong, looking at the post below. But the storm is still on the horizon.
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Obscene publications act contradicts freedom of expression in the human rights act 1998. Publishing fictional material is also a victimless crime in itself. Also the new laws on "extreme pornography", make watching videos of legal consensual acts illegal, so it's victimless. Then of course there's the drug laws, I don't personally think that someone should be arrested for taking a drug as there is no victim (other than possibly themselves) and it's completley stupid making some drugs illegal and others not.
I never really liked the idea of banning things because of what someone might do with it either, eg knives, as it's a slipperly slope and mere posession is a victimless crime.
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