Jobless to work 'clearing litter' !!!
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People on the dole are actively encouraged to take or resit GCSEs, which is good in theory but I don't think they make it mandatory. Ideally it should be mandatory to go and do that maybe twice a week or something IMHO.
and rent and council tax..
It has to be otherwise people wouldn't choose to go on it. Like the poster above who thinks supermarkets are below him and he's waiting to go in the forces. He has chosen to go on the JSA he doesn't need it. That's the biggest problem with it.
Isn't retraining available for people on JSA?
Housing benefit and council tax benefit are not the dole, separate benefits.
It is, but I think only up to GCSE level. Not positive though.
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I have to agree with a presenter I heard on the radio. Put your unemployed in a room. No comfy sofa, televisions, DVD's, Games machine, computer, phone, beer and let them sit there doing absolutely nothing. Completely nothing for the working day and tell them to come back all week. Week after week. Then give them Dole. I think they will find jobs slightly quicker..
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My passion to improve my life is not to find a crap temp job, its to spend as much time as I can on sorting my fitness etc out before I start to serve my country. A temp job is not going to change/improve my life remotely tbh, so thats screwed
improve your fitness ?, are you on JSA or incapacity benefit ?
No I didn't mean ask to speak to someone in charge at the job centre, that would get you no where, I mean ask to speak to someone in charge at the company you wish to acquire a job at as they sometimes tell you that the only way to apply for a job at their firm is to apply at the local job centre, I've in the past had this told to me but instead I've asked to speak to the manager and get got me the job.
Might be separate benefits but they are all the same. It is very unlikely you will be on JSA and not the others, unless you live with your parents or a partner.
It's ironic because a few people I know on (just) the dole, getting £48 a week, have a trampy part-furnished flat with a trampy sofa and no TV because they have to pay for food, transport and bills.
It depends entirely on the circumstances. They could be a bit stricter but, unless you look pretty unemployable or are really persistent at the Job Centre, chances are they'll say you can make do with JSA.
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Indeed, although, if they were only a bit lame, say one leg is a bit dodgy, then I am sure they could manage a little clear up.
The poster who thinks supermarkets are above him and the one who is waiting to go in the forces are two seperate people..
You have lost track of this, that poster is someone who didnt want to work in supermarkets so retrained and got a better job, Im waiting for the armed forces.
I chose to go on JSA and was encouraged to, why shouldnt I? Its there for people who have temporary spells without employment due to their employers(be it places shut for a few weeks, such as student unions for a few weeks over summer, and im not talking about for the bar staff) or for people awaiting their jobs to start.
What do you suggest I do instead of claim JSA?
Get a job that so far I havnt managed to find, norr have the jobcentre or my JSA advisor managed to find me?
£48 a week for me is nothing, I dont claim for rent or anything like that ontop of that.
Can't say I've ever heard of someone getting incapacity benefit or disability living allowance just for a leg that's "a bit dodgy", maybe if it seriously affects their ability to get up and down stairs or walk a fair distance. But even then the severity affects what tier of benefit they get, they might end up with no more than people on JSA get (£48).
im sure if someone only has one dodgey leg they could do a lot more than litter clean up...
Yes find a job. it's not hard. Yes your entitled to it and as I said that's the biggest problem. Most people should not be entitled to it and if they are for no longer than 3months. That's plrnty of time to find a job. If you work somewhere that closes over summer. You no well in advance and can find a job ready for that.
Jobcenter is useless and pretty much pointless as hardly anyone advertises jobs in them anymore.
but to be honest GCSE's don't mean that much i admit i don't have that good results (mainly D's), surely a level 2 or 3 course would do a lot better, as to get those does take a lot of work, and the sucess of passing the course would give an enthusiam to use the new qualification that they have worked hard for and earnt
A, C in english and Maths is almost essential.
i havn't got a C in either of them, but I do have level 2 communications and application of number, not the same thing, but basicly the same level, it's also the same reason as to why i did the BTEC 1st diploma IT, so i could use that to get onto the BTEC national diploma
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Over the last few years there has been an almost deliberate and allowed influx of immigrants to this country. All willing to do the jobs brits do not like doing or for whatever reason. So all the low paid and menial jobs have slowly been taken up. Now they bring in tough new dole measures after they have allowed this to happen. What will happen...anyone agree.
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This is the perfect example of why "get any job" mentality isn't good for society or JSA claimants. Considering the amount of $$$ spent on mental health problems caused by people's jobs, if more people had the oportunity to retrain instead of being expecting to take the first menial jobs that's offered the NHS would probably be a lot cheaper.
DMPoole had that 'anyjob' mentality for 33 years. If we took a different attitude to work DMPoole could have been using his skills a long time ago, benefit to MrPoole, benefit to society.
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This is definately a step in the right direction - we pay far too much in order to support people who are basically just parasites.
JSA is there for people who are actively seeking a job - if after 2 years they haven't found one then why not give them one tbh.... IMO it ought to be after 1 year. tbh.. long term spongers are responsible for creating the stigma around claiming the 'dole' - tis a legitimate thing to do if you've paid in and are between jobs for a bit - it isn't a legitimate thing to do if you just can't be arsed.
JSA is there for people who are actively seeking a job - if after 2 years they haven't found one then why not give them one tbh.... IMO it ought to be after 1 year. tbh.. long term spongers are responsible for creating the stigma around claiming the 'dole' - tis a legitimate thing to do if you've paid in and are between jobs for a bit - it isn't a legitimate thing to do if you just can't be arsed.
nobody stopped him, he choose to work those jobs?
Society can't hang about for everybody find thier niche, people need to be working and not sponging off the system, not that it forces them to particularly giving them a year of claiming with no pressure.
not everybody gets thier dream job or even a job they like, more so if they can't be bothered to go and better themselves.