Jobless to work 'clearing litter' !!!

[Psycho Sonny]

To hell with that, if they tell me to skoop that low . :-/
Why not offer jobs that aren't demoralising and things no one else wants to do? Oh wait because they're aren't any jobs.

ROFL

theres at least 1000 jobs at the local job centre

have you even tried looking?

local takeaways and restaurants need delivery drivers - its an easy job for someone as lazy as yourself - oh wait you dont like working so cant afford a car

 

[peetee]

a lot of delivery jobs have supplied vehicles

 

[badbob]

Of course "there are jobs" but the vast majority are not suitable for various reasons. oh as for not having a car, that's because of my eyesight. Which effects my job prospects.

 

[Psycho Sonny]

Of course "there are jobs" but the vast majority are not suitable for various reasons. oh as for not having a car, that's because of my eyesight. Which effects my job prospects.

explain why the following jobs are unsuitable

cleaner

barman

steward

asda shelf stacker

call centre

 

[vincent1989]

as has been mentioned in this thread, what i really hate is those people who believe certain jobs are beneath them, and yet are happy to keep mooching (this, in my opinion, is akin to stealing). If you can get a job (what ever job) then you should chose the job over JSA, i mean, come on, it really isn't that hard to get in to a low paid job, i'm only 19 and have had 2 jobs (possibly 3 if i get the nod tomorrow ) since the age of 15, getting into an unskilled job is EASY! and if you believe a job is beneath you, then quite frankly you should receive NO benefits!

 

[Things change I've changed]

explain why the following jobs are unsuitable

cleaner

barman

steward

asda shelf stacker

call centre

come on badbob, explain why the above jobs aren't acceptable, man I know your type, you have an excuse for everything, I've had to do some poor jobs in my time, I honestly would've been better off on the dole with some of them but I stuck through it, step up to the plate man.

 

[vincent1989]

come on badbob, explain why the above jobs aren't acceptable, man I know your type, you have an excuse for everything, I've had to do some poor jobs in my time, I honestly would've been better off on the dole with some of them but I stuck through it, step up to the plate man.

because he's trained for XYZ, and only crappy uneducated people work in those jobs, and he's far to happy to let those crappy uneducated people help to pay his way (because they are beneath him)

 

[OpenToSuggestions]

thing is there is actual people that do need them, its telling them apart from the chav scum thats the problem

I agree some people DO need benefits. However people with small children who dont work, and then keep on having children is a joke imo.

The chav scum have no intentions of coming off benefits. Just think of the money that could be spent on roads/NHS/schools etc etc if the lazy ****ers got no free money

Finding a job is easy, 3months max is all that is needed. I am talking A job, now a job you would like or prefer, just A job.

 

[dowie]

explain why the following jobs are unsuitable

cleaner

barman

steward

asda shelf stacker

call centre

depends what job you had before tbh...

Say you worked in the middle office in a large bank & were laid off due to the credit crunch - you've paid your national insurance (probably a lot more than most people have paid) and are actively seeking a similar role in another bank - why should you have to go to and get 'any' job.

Fair enough if you're still unemployed 6 months down the line - yes you then ought to take what you can get - but initially - there is little point in forcing (at the outset) someone already qualified for & actively seeking a particular role to simply take 'anything'.

 

[Stelly]

This is definately a step in the right direction - we pay far too much in order to support people who are basically just parasites.

JSA is there for people who are actively seeking a job - if after 2 years they haven't found one then why not give them one tbh.... IMO it ought to be after 1 year. tbh.. long term spongers are responsible for creating the stigma around claiming the 'dole' - tis a legitimate thing to do if you've paid in and are between jobs for a bit - it isn't a legitimate thing to do if you just can't be arsed.

agreed!

Stelly

 

[badbob]

I don't have to give my personal reasons as that's none of your business.
Barman and call centre require previous experience.

 

[vincent1989]

depends what job you had before tbh...

Say you worked in the middle office in a large bank & were laid off due to the credit crunch - you've paid your national insurance (probably a lot more than most people have paid) and are actively seeking a similar role in another bank - why should you have to go to and get 'any' job.

Fair enough if you're still unemployed 6 months down the line - yes you then ought to take what you can get - but initially - there is little point in forcing (at the outset) someone already qualified for & actively seeking a particular role to simply take 'anything'.

because nothing is stopping you looking for another, better, job whilst in a place of work? surely you take the first thing available and work up from there, i'd never chose to be on JSA longer than necessary because of how i personally feel about it, i hate the idea of people 'stealing' my taxes because they're picky, i'd expect the same treatment.

I don't have to give my personal reasons as that's none of your business.
Barman and call centre require previous experience.

you're wrong, i have plenty of friends (and know plenty of other people) who have got jobs in call centres with little to no previous experience, and even bar work will not be picky in busy periods (again, i know from friends and people i've talked to)

 

[badbob]

As another poster said do you really think if all benefits (JSA, IB, national pension) income tax will go down? Nope it'll be wasted in rubbish like Millienium Dome II.

And whether you agree with or not, mothers have to be supported, you can't exactly have mother and child living in the streets. Not that I agree with it of course, but I get slightly less than mums.

If I get a job, fine. But certainly not going for toilet cleaners.

 

[vincent1989]

As another poster said do you really think if all benefits (JSA, IB, national pension) income tax will go down? Nope it'll be wasted in rubbish like Millienium Dome II.

who cares, at least it's not going on lazy ******* with the same ideology as you.

it'd probably be shunted toward either the military or the NHS (either would be preferential)

 

[badbob]

You need to get some life experience..you don't know me or have any idea..

 

[dowie]

because nothing is stopping you looking for another, better, job whilst in a place of work? surely you take the first thing available and work up from there, i'd never chose to be on JSA longer than necessary because of how i personally feel about it, i hate the idea of people 'stealing' my taxes because they're picky, i'd expect the same treatment.

because you've actually paid into the system & are looking for specific jobs that you'll stand a good chance of being interviewed for.

I claimed JSA for a grand total of 5 weeks and prior to that had paid many times more than the sum I was given in NI payments - thats what it is there for tbh... There is naff all point in applying for a call centre role if you've already got interviews lined up for something paying 4 times as much. Not only are you wasting time in interview prep but it isn't exactly fair on the call centre when, by the time they've given you the job and put you through your training you're handing in your resignation so would have added no value to thier business in the first place.

 

[vincent1989]

You need to get some life experience..you don't know me or have any idea..

i don't really care to be perfectly honest, all i know is i pay may way, and you think it's acceptable for me to have to pay for you, to do nothing, seems like i have better experience than you

because you've actually paid into the system & are looking for specific jobs that you'll stand a good chance of being interviewed for.

I claimed JSA for a grand total of 5 weeks and prior to that had paid many times more than the sum I was given in NI payments - thats what it is there for tbh... There is naff all point in applying for a call centre role if you've already got interviews lined up for something paying 4 times as much. Not only are you wasting time in interview prep but it isn't exactly fair on the call centre when, by the time they've given you the job and put you through your training you're handing in your resignation so would have added no value to thier business in the first place.

if you read the article iirc it states that only after 6 months will the working part come in (and only for 4 weeks) this seems fair enough to me and is more than adequate time, i do agree with you in that it's fair to expect people to attempt to get a similar job to their previous one before this period, i wasn't being very specific, i apologise

 

[Edinho]

Sad thing is this will lead to more paperwork, interviews and those that really need to loose out. The welfare system used to work 25 years ago, until we started dishing out housing and benefits to any 16 year old female who opens her legs every 5 minutes.

To sum up. The scrougers and swindlers will always get what they want while the like of you and me get royally screwed more and more.

 

[badbob]

Like I said you know nothing about me, stop presuming.
At least I don't spend it on booze and fags, or mug old women. And I don't send it out of the country. I also don't have kids raising up to be yobs. You can thank immigration that polish workers are sending pay packets home. Which is costing far more than me.

I worked in a supermarket, bloody miserable it was. If I worked there any longer I would have put a bullet in my head. Or killed one of the supervisors.

Hell I want to work but in a job that I willing to do, not "any job will do" Been out of work for close for a long time, I get no replies or interviews.

 

[vincent1989]

Like I said you know nothing about me, stop presuming.
At least I don't spend it on booze and fags, or mug old women. And I don't send it out of the country. I also don't have kids raising up to be yobs. You can thank immigration that polish workers are sending pay packets home. Which is costing far more than me.

like i said, i really don't care what others are doing, the fact that YOU think it's acceptable is deplorable

I worked in a supermarket, bloody miserable it was. If I worked there any longer I would have put a bullet in my head. Or killed one of the supervisors.

oh, congratulations, you've worked in a dead end job, haven't we all, i feel so sorry that you didn't like it, would you like me to sugar coat something else for you whilst i'm at it

Hell I want to work but in a job that I willing to do, not "any job will do" Been out of work for close for a long time, I get no replies or interviews.

then perhaps you really aren't as important as you think?