comparison of p35 & p45 - help me convince a friend

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so i have recently had my p45 board in my sig which i am really happy with

a friend of my family has asked me to build a rig which he is running for games

he has picked up a copy of custom pc who say that the best £/performance s775 board is the p35 pk5 premium wifi ap

now i have suggested the same board as i have due to the chipset being newer

both boards are roughly the same price so it really is just features that make the difference

could you suggest reasons for and against the p35 pk5 premium wifi ap
and the p45 P5Q-E

am i just being defensive of my own board or is there a real benefit to the p35 board

it seems the magazine review has made up his mind but i would like a thread of responses to show him

thanks guys
 
Definately P45 unless you find a great deal for a P35 board.

Tho saying that P45 offers little over P35 unless you're going to be clocking a 45nm quad.
 
The board CPC recommend is great (had one myself for six months) but they still haven't reviewed any P45 boards.
 
see thats what im thinking

i am speaking from experience with my p45 board
but he is after the wifi ap due to it being 'in the magazine'

its the same price
so that makes no difference

if it was your money - what would you get?
 
he's a fool for getting that

really expensive board

also, will he use all gfx card slots?

no point buying if you don't plan to use them
 
In the very latest CPC, not sure if it's in the shops yet, they do review three P45 boards although only one of them is mainstream (Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS4) and the others are more expensive (Foxconn Blackops & Asus Maximus II Formula).

They liked the Blackops board, and it overclocked to 550Mhz FSB but wasn't stable. The others 'struggled' to top 480/490Mhz FSB.

Overall, the conclusion seemed to be that the P45 chipset is good, but that the P35 is better and the P45 doesn't really offer anything over P35 aside from the 8x/8x crossfire support.

They still recommend the Asus P5K Premium WiFi-AP.

If it was my money though, I'd still get a P45 as the 8x/8x crossfire may come in handy at some point, and 500mhz+ FSB is not somewhere I'm likely to be going any time soon!! The 450+ achieved by most P45 boards would be plenty for me.
 
see he will be running it with an E8xxx cpu and probably one of the ATI cards [because he saw it in the mag/his new bible]

so i dont really know what to advise him now

ive just said p45 as i went to this from am2
 
Tooks said:
In the very latest CPC, not sure if it's in the shops yet, they do review three P45 boards although only one of them is mainstream (Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS4) and the others are more expensive (Foxconn Blackops & Asus Maximus II Formula).

They liked the Blackops board, and it overclocked to 550Mhz FSB but wasn't stable. The others 'struggled' to top 480/490Mhz FSB.
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Which CPU?
 
their test kit for the black ops and maximus 2 formula is

2.66GHz c2d E6750
2gb corsair xms2 - 8500
bfg 8800gts512
vista 32
 
*sigh*

Surely they could have forked out for an uptodate CPU. If they'd put an E8400 in the test-bed they would have come away far happier. Well over 600mhz FSB is more than possible for someone that knows what they're doing.

Christ my old P965 DS3 could do over 500mhz with an old E6600.
 
im flicking through this magazine now and to be honest - a lot of stuff seems a bit dated - especially their upgrade advice
 
You should know by now that PC gear is out dated quicker than you change your undies.. In their defense, Custom PC do their own lab tests rather than rely on external resourcing or resources. It would be difficult to test every group of components each month so instead they are done in periodical cycles.

But as i said, the P35 is still great value for money which is just as important as all out performance.
 
i know that dude :) and my wallet does...

but surley they should understand that test kit should be up to scratch
 
rjkoneill said:
i know that dude :) and my wallet does...

but surley they should understand that test kit should be up to scratch
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They were .. at the time of review..

The thing is to upgrade what you are happy with today .. not what's around the corner or your wallet will be pretty empty most times. For example, i bought a Q6600 and a P35 last October and it's pretty fast and I've overclocked the CPU to 3.7Ghz now. So you can't argue with that for under £200 - bang-for-buck it's a steal and their reviews were spot on. My point is that this time next year, although it won't be bleeding edge technology, it will still be perfroming well..

I upgrade my CPU on a two year cycle and normally stick to that otherwise I'd have to sell the family and the pet rabbit.. (actually I wouldn't sell the Rabit)
 
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Well if they were able to get their hands on an Asus Maximus II Formula then there's no reason at all why they couldn't have used a Penryn CPU.
 
I think their logic is that the E6750 was the same one as used to set their reference benchmarks last year, so by keeping all the other kit the same apart from the motherboard, you should be able to compare boards more readily.

I'm not saying I agree with that, and it would seem sensible for them to test a 45nm CPU with it.

I'm sure it's not cash holding them back, more likely time constraints and the above testing logic?
 
Cob said:
Well if they were able to get their hands on an Asus Maximus II Formula then there's no reason at all why they couldn't have used a Penryn CPU.
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Maybe Asus are pretty forthcoming with releasing them a test module.. i don't know. I guess it is a little dissapointing at times to read about out dated stuff.
 
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