Buying first car, advice please

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I've become quite setting on getting a new Polo as my first car, but I'm a little unsure of what kind of price I should be going in haggling for. My dad thinks I should go in a grand under the on the road price (9K from the model I'm looking at); but this seems a little steep to me.

Given the economic climate at the moment and the fact that its nearly August is going in asking for over 10% off going too far?

Thanks.
 
why not save yourself a couple of grand and get a 2nd hand one?

it'll lose a few grand as soon as you drive it off the forecourt anyway :)
 
As above, not rly worth buying a new car, and tbh if its your first one then no need to spend a lot of money on it either. Get something 2nd hand to last you few years and then look at getting something nicer.
 
if your intent on a new one, then month end is always a good tactic, followed by ignoring their 1st offer

also go round at least 3 or 4 dealers with same story as one will no doubt be keener to sell than the rest
 
Don't buy a brand new Polo, presumably a 1.2 judging by the price you've quoted. It's just... rubbish, and a complete waste of money.
 
Even with VW's typically being a bit over-priced secondhand, you would still be far better served getting a 2-3 year old one for half the price - the facelift ones start at a bit under £5k.
 
Isn't it entirely possible this young chap/lady has already discussed this with his/her dad etc and is merely looking for advice on how best to haggle the price of a new car, one or two suggestions of saving cash on a nearly new is fair enough, half a dozen or so is bordering on rude IMO.

He may have decided a new one is the best option for his personal circumstances which he is under no obligation to broadcast to the community.

I find the Motoring section to be very opinionated and some people seem more intent in spouting irrelevant knowledge instead of actually helping a lot of the time. It would be nice to be in a thread that was helpful for a change.

Of course by the time I've written this he will have thanked everyone and decided to buy a 2nd hand one and I'll be looking like the proverbial prat now :D
 
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Guess what, this is a discussion forum not a place of work, as a result we are free to post opinions. Now talk about cars and stop criticising peoples posts. It may be the best choice for him but it follows therefore that it may not.
 
Of course people are opinionated. Its the internet.

The reality of it is that sometimes people take actions based on what they think at the time, then regret the decision later. There've been a few people on here who've spent quite a bit on a base spec brand new car to start with, then regretted that decision later, whether its due to it not being "worth it" when the newness wears off, the spec not being as good as they could have had or that they crash it due to inexperience.

Obviously, you're right in that there are whole load of people saying the same thing, but its just people saying opinions and a lot of people on here have that opinion - if it were "should I spend £25,000 on a Corsa" you'd also have a lot of people disagreeing. There's been one person who's given bartering advice, and rather than just saying "2nd hand mate", I did at least put down the figure that a second hand one would cost. I really don't see what your problem is?
 
[TW]Fox;12163393 said:
Guess what, this is a discussion forum not a place of work, as a result we are free to post opinions. Now talk about cars and stop criticising peoples posts. It may be the best choice for him but it follows therefore that it may not.
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No-one is denying your freedom of speech, and bizarrely this thread is probably the least restrained you've been till now :p

He asked about the best way to negotiate a deal, and I seem to be the only one offering any advice on original topic, perfectly valid to suggest other options, but there was a definate imbalance emerging.

your reply was at best sarcastic and at worst patronising :), so get off your high horse with your prepared speech and offer something useful or do you only frequent these forums to reinforce your natural arrogance ?

Youve also failed to notice my last sentence where i was attempting to set myself up for a tirade of abuse
 
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act smiley said:
Of course people are opinionated. Its the internet.

The reality of it is that sometimes people take actions based on what they think at the time, then regret the decision later. There've been a few people on here who've spent quite a bit on a base spec brand new car to start with, then regretted that decision later, whether its due to it not being "worth it" when the newness wears off, the spec not being as good as they could have had or that they crash it due to inexperience.

Obviously, you're right in that there are whole load of people saying the same thing, but its just people saying opinions and a lot of people on here have that opinion - if it were "should I spend £25,000 on a Corsa" you'd also have a lot of people disagreeing. There's been one person who's given bartering advice, and rather than just saying "2nd hand mate", I did at least put down the figure that a second hand one would cost. I really don't see what your problem is?
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I dont have a problem other than trying to assist OP, no offense intended
 
All people are doing is informing him of a way of saving a lot of money (which is what the OP is trying to do by haggling) and getting next to the same thing, including warranties etc.

If you into a dealer and there is a brand new car at £9k and there is one exactly the same, just 2nd hand, with a few thousand miles on the clock at £4k, both with all the relevant warranties and paperwork, which would you buy?

As for the original question, £1k of a brand new car (or a 2nd hand one) that's for sale at that sort of price is something you can quite likely achieve. :)

InvG
 
I will give the same advice that I give ANY new driver, based on my own experiences. If you are pretty sure that you are going to drive like a woman (as in sensibly, gently and pretty well sticking to speed limits, not being 'sporty', accelerating hard and braking late etc etc etc), then by all means get yourself a more expensive car.

HOWEVER

If you are a red-blooded male that is 'in it to win it', rode his bike as fast as it could possibly go as a kid, did huge jumps on it and had no qualms with dropping off the sides of hills etc and applies this adrenaline-fuelled logic to everything he does then GET A CHEAP FIRST CAR. You will want to throw it around a bit, you will want to go quickly in it and you will think you are a great driver, until you spoon it and chances are you will, maybe more than once.

I am cocky but, I am a great driver (30 now), have a lot of fun with my cars and know exactly what the car is doing/is capable of at all times. I also thought this when I passed my test 13 years ago and proceeded to crash 3 times in my first 3 months of driving. 1st crash was nothing major, 2nd crash was a write off me in the middle sandwich and 3rd crash knackered my car and damaged 3 others........... It took a fair while to actually have the skill to back up what I thought.....

Personally I think anyone forking out a ton of money on a first car is taking a big gamble. Yes it does work out fine for some folk but.
 
InvaderGIR said:
All people are doing is informing him of a way of saving a lot of money (which is what the OP is trying to do by haggling) and getting next to the same thing, including warranties etc.

If you into a dealer and there is a brand new car at £9k and there is one exactly the same, just 2nd hand, with a few thousand miles on the clock at £4k, both with all the relevant warranties and paperwork, which would you buy?

As for the original question, £1k of a brand new car (or a 2nd hand one) that's for sale at that sort of price is something you can quite likely achieve. :)

InvG
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From personal experience I could never afford a brand new car till I was nearly 30, so good luck to OP if he can. When I eventually did manage to buy one new the novelty wore off very quickly.

However if the OP is set on a new one and he is in a position to do so, it can be very difficult to get away from that approach. I'm sure we've all bought with our hearts rather than our heads at some point in our driving histories.

Sorry if you have all taken offense, but as previously stated we are entitled to our opinions and it was my opinion we as a communtiy were not giving a balanced argument [in retrospect not a great idea by the looks of things ]
 
Mr Footlong said:
I will give the same advice that I give ANY new driver, based on my own experiences. If you are pretty sure that you are going to drive like a woman (as in sensibly, gently and pretty well sticking to speed limits, not being 'sporty', accelerating hard and braking late etc etc etc), then by all means get yourself a more expensive car.

HOWEVER

If you are a red-blooded male that is 'in it to win it', rode his bike as fast as it could possibly go as a kid, did huge jumps on it and had no qualms with dropping off the sides of hills etc and applies this adrenaline-fuelled logic to everything he does then GET A CHEAP FIRST CAR. You will want to throw it around a bit, you will want to go quickly in it and you will think you are a great driver, until you spoon it and chances are you will, maybe more than once.

I am cocky but, I am a great driver (30 now), have a lot of fun with my cars and know exactly what the car is doing/is capable of at all times. I also thought this when I passed my test 13 years ago and proceeded to crash 3 times in my first 3 months of driving. 1st crash was nothing major, 2nd crash was a write off me in the middle sandwich and 3rd crash knackered my car and damaged 3 others........... It took a fair while to actually have the skill to back up what I thought.....

Personally I think anyone forking out a ton of money on a first car is taking a big gamble. Yes it does work out fine for some folk but.
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Not always true.. I was a very 'dangerous' driver.. If your not too retarded in the wet when thinking about braking distances and understeer (FF). You will *probably be fine*

Just build up to the limits of the car, think about different driving conditions and for heavens sake get down to your local abandoned industrial estate in the middle of the night and see what happens if X or Y, let some steam out and Oh! Have some fun tooo!!

And for the love of god don't buy brand new!!!! But if you want more Face...Palm action buy on finance.
 
Hello OcUK, I have found a nailgun. I would like to fire it at myself for a laugh. Can anyone spec me a jumper?

Dont do it, it will hurt.

Thats a stupid idea.

You could injure yourself

Stupid.

OMG GUYS QUIT criticising!!! What if shooting himself with a nailgun is right for his personal circumstances, he has already thought this through I would imagine, god this forum is so annoying, all these people giving opinions, blah blah blah

:D
 
He's already got one dad, don't think he needs another :D


ref your nailgun, make sure the nails are hollow points and do us all a favour, all in jest of course
 
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