Murder of Danish girl by 3 UK soldiers

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I can't believe I don't remember this, but it's a very old story from 1994 of 3 Royal Green Jackets who raped and murdered a Danish tour guide back in 1994.

The only reason I saw it today was it was linked from a current BBC story about some squaddies who were cleared of fighting in Cyprus this week.

Reading through the BBC stories and the other stuff on the web I am finding the original story hard to comprehend.

Basically 3 soldiers in Cyprus in 1994 hunted down a 22 year old girl and her Cypriot boyfriend and knocked them off their scooter. They then kidnapped the girl, raped her multiple times before beating her to death with a spade - hitting her so hard they cut her face in half and she had to be identified by rings and teeth. They then buried her in a shallow grave behind a police station.

They were jailed for life in 1994, then it was changed to 25 years and they were released in 2006 after serving 12 years.

Now it's a this point I cannot comprehend this - they hunt down, kidnap, rape and beat a girl to death and get 12 years. What exactly do you have to do to get a real sentence?

In the US they would either have beene executed or given life without parole for this crime and died in prison.

The excuse was they were drunk and in fact the court gave them manslaughter instead of murder because they said they were too drunk to pre plan it.

The issue I have with this is that alcholol only brings to the surface behaviour and morals already within a person. So what human being would do this to another and then could be considered of value to society - if they think this is vaguely acceptable then there is no reason why they would not do it again given the right circumstances.

Some background for those who don't remember this;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4792915.stm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Jensen
 
miracleboy said:
You begrudge me my opinion do you? Or maybe you think 12 years is fine for the small crime of multiple rape and murder?
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You're not a qualified judge are you? Your prefix isn't 'Justice' is it?

From reading one small snippet of information, you think you can actually define what an adequate sentence should be? You were not there, you have not seen the evidence, you do not know these people or their disposition and temperment. You do not know what other variables must have been taken into consideration.

Justice is not about revenge, it's about reform and punishment. If the judge has deemed that the perpretators are likely to reform after X years, then they can review it then. I imagine that a prison parole board has far more experience, knowledge and expertise on the issue than some whiney fart at a keyboard.

It wasn't a nice thing to do, and I'm not defending it either, but your opinion regarding the issue might aswell be worthless.
 
miracleboy said:
Jesus wept man, what have I done to you in the past? Aren't personal attacks a bit far?
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It's not an attack on you per se. I've got absolutely no problem with you. It's the constant stream of moaning over things which people have got absolutely no expertise on which is really beginning to irk me. Anyway, you wanted a debate. Consider me the spam brigade.

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pity the same people who sit as judges and parole officers have no say in the pedantry that goes on here... but then again given some of the people who they've let out early on the grounds of 'reform' only to have the individual commit further crimes, I dare say it wouldn't go down too well here either.

I take it that you're just having an off day and the 'whiney fart' comment slipped out as a personal attack on the OP by accident, did it?
 
jumpy said:
pity the same people who sit as judges and parole officers have no say in the pedantry that goes on here... but then again given some of the people who they've let out early on the grounds of 'reform' only to have the individual commit further crimes, I dare say it wouldn't go down too well here either.

I take it that you're just having an off day and the 'whiney fart' comment slipped out as a personal attack on the OP by accident, did it?
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Yeah, well... so's your face. :p
 
Nix said:
You're not a qualified judge are you? Your prefix isn't 'Justice' is it?

From reading one small snippet of information, you think you can actually define what an adequate sentence should be? You were not there, you have not seen the evidence, you do not know these people or their disposition and temperment. You do not know what other variables must have been taken into consideration.

Justice is not about revenge, it's about reform and punishment. If the judge has deemed that the perpretators are likely to reform after X years, then they can review it then. I imagine that a prison parole board has far more experience, knowledge and expertise on the issue than some whiney fart at a keyboard.

It wasn't a nice thing to do, and I'm not defending it either, but your opinion regarding the issue might aswell be worthless.
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So what possible variables could make 12 years a just sentence for rape and murder?
 
Okay, I can buy that 12 years may have been long enough for them to be 'reformed' and I use that term loosely. However, how anyone can think it's enough punishment is beyond me.
 
jumpy said:
but then again given some of the people who they've let out early on the grounds of 'reform' only to have the individual commit further crimes, I dare say it wouldn't go down too well here either.
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Enlighten us then; what are the figures? Do you actually know them, or is this just provocative rhetoric?
 
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