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Am I correct in thinking that after my 10 day trial runs out, sometime early Tuesday morning, I can upgrade it to a full account?

Do I simply go out, purchase the WoW Warchest, install the game from the DVD (and patch it) and then add the serial code to my expired trial account?

Or would it be easier to create a new account when I install the full game?
 
You should be able to upgrade it on the account management (link above is for US version so it may not apply to the EU one)

Don't think you'll have to install off the Dvd though, unless you only have the classic trial in which case you'll want to install the BC discs (then patch)
 
Be wary of buying the battlechest.

WoTLK is out soonish, so the current Battlechest will become obsolete. Plus you already have the full client.. afaik the restrictions are only on your account? Although someone needs to confirm.

Upgrade as above, then buy TBC only.
 
AFAIK you still gotta actually buy WoW to upgrade the trial to full.
Also all signs currently point to you needing BC to get wrath anyway so the battlechest is still useful
 
Am I correct in thinking that after my 10 day trial runs out, sometime early Tuesday morning, I can upgrade it to a full account?

Do I simply go out, purchase the WoW Warchest, install the game from the DVD (and patch it) and then add the serial code to my expired trial account?

Or would it be easier to create a new account when I install the full game?

Bored of Eve?
 
No problem.

There are two things -
1) Convert your trial account to a full account which, if I remember correctly, you do in WoW account management by feeding in a full retail key (which is effectively all you are buying when you pay for the game from a shop) while logged into account mangement as your trial account.

2) Update your client software on your PC. I'm not even sure whether this is necessary if you are just going from trial to full account without the Burning Crusade expansion.




I started playing again last December with a trial account. Before the trial ran out I was hooked but hit the level cap on the trial (around lvl 20).

As I remember I went out and bought the battlechest since I decided I wanted the expansion "The Burning Crusade" for sure.

After the best part of a happy day installing and patching I was away again. You can speed this up by searching the WoW forums for a list of patches required to go from retail DVDs to the current configuration. For speed, download the patches from a RELIABLE source like fileplanet else you may be installing hacks and trojans as well. The Blizzard patch downloader does get there ...... EVENTUALLY! While very slow the blizzard automatic updater is the safest and most error - free way of doing it.

The trial isn't the same as the full game in terms of functionality - I played safe and reinstalled everything. Not sure if there is some easy way to convert your client from trial to full (without TBC.)

Strongly suggest you install add-on SpamMeNot. Also strongly suggest you get one of the "Blizzard Authenticators" from the blizzard shop to give you a huge boost to your account security to deter account hackers (big thread about this elsewhere on this forum).
 
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Strongly suggest you install add-on SpamMeNot. Also strongly suggest you get one of the "Blizzard Authenticators" from the blizzard shop to give you a huge boost to your account security to deter account hackers (big thread about this elsewhere on this forum).

That's for idiots who have no idea how to protect their computers in the most basic ways possible. Paying to boost account security? What a joke. Getting a free software AV like Avast, setting your router up properly, using a software firewall like Zonealarm or such are far better alternatives. They protect your entire computer as well.

People whose accounts have been hacked are often the guys who click on every single advert that pops up while they enjoy their browsing session over IE5, respond to dodgy phishing scams and oblige with Nigerian royalty figures.

It's simple. Don't be stupid. And your account will be fine.
 
That's for idiots who have no idea how to protect their computers in the most basic ways possible. Paying to boost account security? What a joke. Getting a free software AV like Avast, setting your router up properly, using a software firewall like Zonealarm or such are far better alternatives. They protect your entire computer as well.

People whose accounts have been hacked are often the guys who click on every single advert that pops up while they enjoy their browsing session over IE5, respond to dodgy phishing scams and oblige with Nigerian royalty figures.

It's simple. Don't be stupid. And your account will be fine.

No personal attacks. Have a holiday on me - Jedi
 
Bored of Eve?

Not really bored. I like it a lot, but it's just the amount of time required to train skills up. I'd much rather battle my to the higher levels than sit there and wait whilst a timer counts down. Other than that, I absolutely love EVE, being an old time 'Elite' player who actually gained Elite status I would like it, wouldn't I.

Anyway, I still have two months subs on EVE and who says you can't have two MMORPG's on the go? :)
 
Woah boy, put down that coffee, he's right. I've played WoW since BETA and well you can guess what I'm going to say. It's totally not needed but if you want to go waste your money, go nuts!


Hmmm.

If you own a house then you have insurance on your property in case it burns down, suffers subsidence, etc. You can live in that property for all your life and never claim (if you are lucky enough not to be blighted by ill fortune). Across the country as a whole, during that life of yours, many people will legitimately make an insurance claim though most won't have to.

The fact you might live in your house for years and never have a problem is NOT a reason to claim no-one needs insurance. I know of no-one who owns a property that does not invest a tiny amount of money in insurance.

Similarly car insurance.

Similarly home contents insurance. This is more pertinent actually. Your house is no doubt secure. You have the best bolts and locked fitted. You lock up every night and every time you leave home. Of course, you don't need insurance, do you? No one will EVER burgle you. They can't - because your hardware and processes are so good. Anyone who gets burgled is an idiot who has failed to secure their property. They deserve it.

Similarly for many that can afford it health insurance.

And now to WoW. Many millions of people play it. Thousands get hacked. The vast, vast majority DO NOT get hacked. This is not necessarily due to their cleverness and skill. It is statistical good fortune.

The Blizzard authenticator is merely an insurance (a very, very, very, cheap insurance) to protect a massive time investment in a game against foul play.

It makes things an order of magnitude harder for hackers to get at your account and ruin you fun. Note I do not say anyway it is foolproof, absolutely safe or anything else of the kind.

For all you poor misguided people sitting behind PCs thinking you are secure here are some facts to chew over.

1) WoW is big business - that attracts organised crime
2) What technology can invent, technology can circumvent.
3) Operating systems are mind boggling complex pieces of software full of bugs and exploits, discovered and undiscovered. A clever programmer might be able to use these to do just what the heck he likes on someone else's PC. Also all Microsoft software has "back doors" to allow snooping by government intelligence agencies. What other "back doors" might microsoft, rogue programmers, etc, put in there?
4) There is always a delay between a new virus/spyware/trojan threat and a fix from the suppliers of security software. This is a window of opportunity when bad things, like collecting user accounts and passwords for WoW might occur. As you may know - last month's microsoft update broke Zonealarm. These things happen. (Some idiot will now say Zonealarm is crap :( )
5) People writing software to exploit Windows etc are a damned sight cleverer, more motivated and have greater resources at their disposal than you.
6) People ( that is salaried, bored, fallible, error-prone people) write, test and release security software, OS patches, virus updates and so on. These software products are not perfect. They are not bug free. The assumption that you are bomb proof because you have these packages and keep them up to date is not sound.
7) Potentially you need to just make one mistake that allows access to your personal data. To be perfectly safe you need to be perfect.
8) The arrogant assumption that you are safe because you are not an idiot and don't use a WoW account on more than one machine, don't share accounts, don't share your machine with anyone else, keep your OS and security software up to date, never visit dodgy websites (how do you know?), and so on may make you feel safe and smug. Sad souls who do not do these things are obviously making things easier for the hackers and are foolish. But this is not the only way account details are nicked.
9) WoW inside job - the easiest way for criminal elements to get your details is simply to bribe or threaten a WoW employee to assist them. This is not at all uncommon in financial call centres. Your precious PC security will not help much with that. As a matter of fact one reason the authenticator may fail is if a hacker asks a Blizzard employee to disconnect the authenticator from a stolen user account. It is to be hoped Blizz have put some procedures in place to make this unlikely to happen.
10) Well ....enough I think :) For less than a the price of a bottle of wine I can make life very tough indeed for any potential hacker trying to get into my WoW account. The system used by the WoW authenticator is very widely used in commerce and industry and for good reason. Similar systems will become increasingly common in all online entertainment where login security might be an issue. In fact, I expect it to become compulsory in the next 5 to 10 years. Service providers like Blizzard will want to use the authenticator to protect their websites, games and services from malicious and criminal people.

oh and ...
11) The Titanic was unsinkable. They didn't bother to fit many life boats. There was no need. The passengers were all quite safe.
 
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Hmmm.

If you own a house then you have insurance on your property in case it burns down, suffers subsidence, etc. You can live in that property for all your life and never claim (if you are lucky enough not to be blighted by ill fortune). Across the country as a whole, during that life of yours, many people will legitimately make an insurance claim though most won't have to.

The fact you might live in your house for years and never have a problem is NOT a reason to claim no-one needs insurance. I know of no-one who owns a property that does not invest a tiny amount of money in insurance.

Similarly car insurance.

Similarly home contents insurance. This is more pertinent actually. Your house is no doubt secure. You have the best bolts and locked fitted. You lock up every night and every time you leave home. Of course, you don't need insurance, do you? No one will EVER burgle you. They can't - because your hardware and processes are so good. Anyone who gets burgled is an idiot who has failed to secure their property. They deserve it.

Similarly for many that can afford it health insurance.

And now to WoW. Many millions of people play it. Thousands get hacked. The vast, vast majority DO NOT get hacked. This is not necessarily due to their cleverness and skill. It is statistical good fortune.

The Blizzard authenticator is merely an insurance (a very, very, very, cheap insurance) to protect a massive time investment in a game against foul play.

It makes things an order of magnitude harder for hackers to get at your account and ruin you fun. Note I do not say anyway it is foolproof, absolutely safe or anything else of the kind.

For all you poor misguided people sitting behind PCs thinking you are secure here are some facts to chew over.

1) WoW is big business - that attracts organised crime
2) What technology can invent, technology can circumvent.
3) Operating systems are mind boggling complex pieces of software full of bugs and exploits, discovered and undiscovered. A clever programmer might be able to use these to do just what the heck he likes on someone else's PC. Also all Microsoft software has "back doors" to allow snooping by government intelligence agencies. What other "back doors" might microsoft, rogue programmers, etc, put in there?
4) There is always a delay between a new virus/spyware/trojan threat and a fix from the suppliers of security software. This is a window of opportunity when bad things, like collecting user accounts and passwords for WoW might occur. As you may know - last month's microsoft update broke Zonealarm. These things happen. (Some idiot will now say Zonealarm is crap :( )
5) People writing software to exploit Windows etc are a damned sight cleverer, more motivated and have greater resources at their disposal than you.
6) People ( that is salaried, bored, fallible, error-prone people) write, test and release security software, OS patches, virus updates and so on. These software products are not perfect. They are not bug free. The assumption that you are bomb proof because you have these packages and keep them up to date is not sound.
7) Potentially you need to just make one mistake that allows access to your personal data. To be perfectly safe you need to be perfect.
8) The arrogant assumption that you are safe because you are not an idiot and don't use a WoW account on more than one machine, don't share accounts, don't share your machine with anyone else, keep your OS and security software up to date, never visit dodgy websites (how do you know?), and so on may make you feel safe and smug. Sad souls who do not do these things are obviously making things easier for the hackers and are foolish. But this is not the only way account details are nicked.
9) WoW inside job - the easiest way for criminal elements to get your details is simply to bribe or threaten a WoW employee to assist them. This is not at all uncommon in financial call centres. Your precious PC security will not help much with that. As a matter of fact one reason the authenticator may fail is if a hacker asks a Blizzard employee to disconnect the authenticator from a stolen user account. It is to be hoped Blizz have put some procedures in place to make this unlikely to happen.
10) Well ....enough I think :) For less than a the price of a bottle of wine I can make life very tough indeed for any potential hacker trying to get into my WoW account. The system used by the WoW authenticator is very widely used in commerce and industry and for good reason. Similar systems will become increasingly common in all online entertainment where login security might be an issue. In fact, I expect it to become compulsory in the next 5 to 10 years. Service providers like Blizzard will want to use the authenticator to protect their websites, games and services from malicious and criminal people.

oh and ...
11) The Titanic was unsinkable. They didn't bother to fit many life boats. There was no need. The passengers were all quite safe.


Biggest load of tosh I've ever heard. It's Warcraft, not illegal gambling. To sell you an account and then sell you something else on top of it to make that account secure is shocking.

You think people would threaten Blizzard employees to get hold of account details? That part was so amazingly stupid that I almost cringed reading it.
 
Biggest load of tosh I've ever heard. It's Warcraft, not illegal gambling. To sell you an account and then sell you something else on top of it to make that account secure is shocking.

You think people would threaten Blizzard employees to get hold of account details? That part was so amazingly stupid that I almost cringed reading it.

Heh, I didnt read anything after seeing car insurance.
 
Hmmm.

If you own a house then you have insurance on your property in case it burns down, suffers subsidence, etc. You can live in that property for all your life and never claim (if you are lucky enough not to be blighted by ill fortune). Across the country as a whole, during that life of yours, many people will legitimately make an insurance claim though most won't have to.

The fact you might live in your house for years and never have a problem is NOT a reason to claim no-one needs insurance. I know of no-one who owns a property that does not invest a tiny amount of money in insurance.

Similarly car insurance.

Similarly home contents insurance. This is more pertinent actually. Your house is no doubt secure. You have the best bolts and locked fitted. You lock up every night and every time you leave home. Of course, you don't need insurance, do you? No one will EVER burgle you. They can't - because your hardware and processes are so good. Anyone who gets burgled is an idiot who has failed to secure their property. They deserve it.

Similarly for many that can afford it health insurance.

And now to WoW. Many millions of people play it. Thousands get hacked. The vast, vast majority DO NOT get hacked. This is not necessarily due to their cleverness and skill. It is statistical good fortune.

The Blizzard authenticator is merely an insurance (a very, very, very, cheap insurance) to protect a massive time investment in a game against foul play.

It makes things an order of magnitude harder for hackers to get at your account and ruin you fun. Note I do not say anyway it is foolproof, absolutely safe or anything else of the kind.

For all you poor misguided people sitting behind PCs thinking you are secure here are some facts to chew over.

1) WoW is big business - that attracts organised crime
2) What technology can invent, technology can circumvent.
3) Operating systems are mind boggling complex pieces of software full of bugs and exploits, discovered and undiscovered. A clever programmer might be able to use these to do just what the heck he likes on someone else's PC. Also all Microsoft software has "back doors" to allow snooping by government intelligence agencies. What other "back doors" might microsoft, rogue programmers, etc, put in there?
4) There is always a delay between a new virus/spyware/trojan threat and a fix from the suppliers of security software. This is a window of opportunity when bad things, like collecting user accounts and passwords for WoW might occur. As you may know - last month's microsoft update broke Zonealarm. These things happen. (Some idiot will now say Zonealarm is crap :( )
5) People writing software to exploit Windows etc are a damned sight cleverer, more motivated and have greater resources at their disposal than you.
6) People ( that is salaried, bored, fallible, error-prone people) write, test and release security software, OS patches, virus updates and so on. These software products are not perfect. They are not bug free. The assumption that you are bomb proof because you have these packages and keep them up to date is not sound.
7) Potentially you need to just make one mistake that allows access to your personal data. To be perfectly safe you need to be perfect.
8) The arrogant assumption that you are safe because you are not an idiot and don't use a WoW account on more than one machine, don't share accounts, don't share your machine with anyone else, keep your OS and security software up to date, never visit dodgy websites (how do you know?), and so on may make you feel safe and smug. Sad souls who do not do these things are obviously making things easier for the hackers and are foolish. But this is not the only way account details are nicked.
9) WoW inside job - the easiest way for criminal elements to get your details is simply to bribe or threaten a WoW employee to assist them. This is not at all uncommon in financial call centres. Your precious PC security will not help much with that. As a matter of fact one reason the authenticator may fail is if a hacker asks a Blizzard employee to disconnect the authenticator from a stolen user account. It is to be hoped Blizz have put some procedures in place to make this unlikely to happen.
10) Well ....enough I think :) For less than a the price of a bottle of wine I can make life very tough indeed for any potential hacker trying to get into my WoW account. The system used by the WoW authenticator is very widely used in commerce and industry and for good reason. Similar systems will become increasingly common in all online entertainment where login security might be an issue. In fact, I expect it to become compulsory in the next 5 to 10 years. Service providers like Blizzard will want to use the authenticator to protect their websites, games and services from malicious and criminal people.

oh and ...
11) The Titanic was unsinkable. They didn't bother to fit many life boats. There was no need. The passengers were all quite safe.

For such a long post, you actually failed to explain how someone can get your wow account and password in a way that isn't covered in KNiVE's post.

All you've managed to say in all 10 points is "it's posible that it could happen", but nothing else.

Your house analogy is rubbish. Yes you insure your house, but you dont lend your keys to strangers to let themselves in. And if you did, and they stole everything, you wouldnt be able to claim on your insurance. So that's that analogy cleared up. You wouldnt even tell a stranger "hello, my house is number 49 Beckerby Street. My name is Bob Jones", letting him trundle off to find possible entries to all your lovely stuffs inside.

1) like what? Account stealing? i think we're all aware of this. What's your point?
2) example? what are you even referring to? That it's possible to hack things? we're aware of that.
3) So boggling you can't even begin to explain how they can be infiltrated. You merely state that they "probably can". Well bucko, i could probably drive faster than Lewis Hamilton, if i tried hard enough. But who knows?
4) And how would such virus/trojan software get on your machine? and what would Blizzard's anti-theft device do about it? Oh, nothing.
5) Do you really think it's hard to write a trojan? Keyloggers are easily available. Not hard to drop one in your freeware, or even someone elses freeware if you're hosting it. Hey... you ever torrented anything? Anyway, how do you know what we do for a living ;)
6) See point 7
7) So how do we be perfect if the anti-thievery tools are not perfect? Are these salaried, bored, falible, error-prone people the same ones who work for Blizzard designing anti-hack tools, you think? Why would Blizzard employees be any more "perfect" than those at AVG or Zonealarm?
8) This paragraph is broken so im unsure how to answer it. I'll just go with "so how else is it nicked?"
9) Yes. Blizzard employees held at gunpoint for game codes! i can see the headlines now. Anyway, Blizzard dont have access to your passwords. They dont need your password to access anything of yours, and they wouldnt be able to tell you it if you wanted it. or anyone else.
10) I use one for working from home, but i'd like to see anyone log on to my work PC remotely even if i didn't have one ;)
11) Sooo what you're saying here is nothing is perfect, and no matter how sure you are about something, it probably isnt the case. Sooooo... like your feelings about the Blizzard fob then? Nicely contradicting yourself there. well done.
 
Oh yes, because I'm wrong, aren't I?


No, you are not wrong. You merely overstate the level of safety you can achieve on a home PC and fail to consider the risk/benefit equation of an optional incredibly cheap account security device vs a great deal of possible anguish and inconvenience if things go wrong. Further your rebuttal to my little suggestion is stated so forcibly that your OPINION may be taken as absolute fact by people reading this - to their possible detriment. I merely point this out in the interests of balance ....
 
Biggest load of tosh I've ever heard. It's Warcraft, not illegal gambling. To sell you an account and then sell you something else on top of it to make that account secure is shocking.

You think people would threaten Blizzard employees to get hold of account details? That part was so amazingly stupid that I almost cringed reading it.

Nothing wrong with selling an optional extra to give end users a little more peace of mind. Please explain why you find this "Shocking". I really want to understand your thought process. Its the oldest trick in the book to sell a basic service then charge extra for enhancements. Blizzard haven't even done this. Years after product release they have simply made an extra service available to their more discerning users. It would have been a nice gesture to hand them out for free - but even for a successful product like WoW it would be too expensive.

I think if there is a quick bit of money to be made some people would do ANYTHING to get it. Internal rings of crooked employees are one of the biggest nightmares for security people preventing fraud and criminality in business. I know people are ruthless, violent and greedy from personal experience. You may cringe till the cows come home, but you are living in cloud cuckoo land and you don't know people.
 
For such a long post, you actually failed to explain how someone can get your wow account and password in a way that isn't covered in KNiVE's post.

** Well yes I have. In several different ways in several different places.

All you've managed to say in all 10 points is "it's posible that it could happen", but nothing else.

** And that is enought o justify the expenditure of a few pounds od cash for extra peace of mind in my opinion. What I don't understand is why there is so much overt hostility to the idea.

Your house analogy is rubbish. Yes you insure your house, but you dont lend your keys to strangers to let themselves in. And if you did, and they stole everything, you wouldnt be able to claim on your insurance. So that's that analogy cleared up. You wouldnt even tell a stranger "hello, my house is number 49 Beckerby Street. My name is Bob Jones", letting him trundle off to find possible entries to all your lovely stuffs inside.

** Keys - who mentioned keys - the ******** smash through windows doors and walls - and tha is my point.

1) like what? Account stealing? i think we're all aware of this. What's your point?
2) example? what are you even referring to? That it's possible to hack things? we're aware of that.
3) So boggling you can't even begin to explain how they can be infiltrated. You merely state that they "probably can". Well bucko, i could probably drive faster than Lewis Hamilton, if i tried hard enough. But who knows?
4) And how would such virus/trojan software get on your machine? and what would Blizzard's anti-theft device do about it? Oh, nothing.
5) Do you really think it's hard to write a trojan? Keyloggers are easily available. Not hard to drop one in your freeware, or even someone elses freeware if you're hosting it. Hey... you ever torrented anything? Anyway, how do you know what we do for a living ;)
6) See point 7
7) So how do we be perfect if the anti-thievery tools are not perfect? Are these salaried, bored, falible, error-prone people the same ones who work for Blizzard designing anti-hack tools, you think? Why would Blizzard employees be any more "perfect" than those at AVG or Zonealarm?
8) This paragraph is broken so im unsure how to answer it. I'll just go with "so how else is it nicked?"
9) Yes. Blizzard employees held at gunpoint for game codes! i can see the headlines now. Anyway, Blizzard dont have access to your passwords. They dont need your password to access anything of yours, and they wouldnt be able to tell you it if you wanted it. or anyone else.
10) I use one for working from home, but i'd like to see anyone log on to my work PC remotely even if i didn't have one ;)
11) Sooo what you're saying here is nothing is perfect, and no matter how sure you are about something, it probably isnt the case. Sooooo... like your feelings about the Blizzard fob then? Nicely contradicting yourself there. well done.

I was going to address each point raised here but frankly I can't be bothered. The poster is more interested in rubbishing what I have to say than thinking seriously about what I have said. From his responses he hasn't really even absorbed my post properly. I'm not even sure he understands how the authenticator works. Lots of noise here and little content. Don't they teach reading comprehension in schools anymore.
 
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