Received an ISP Letter of Abuse

aardvark · 6 Aug 2008 at 09:33

ignore it.

Johnnytoxic · 6 Aug 2008 at 09:34

Go with the wireless excuse. That way they can't prove nothing.

Sh3rlock · 6 Aug 2008 at 09:35

Please reply to this email within 7 days stating that your PIPEX account will not be used for copyright infringement or any breaches of the law or the PIPEX Acceptable Use Policy.

Reply saying that your account will not be use for copywrite infringement ?

There not really asking you to own up to anything here, just asking you to say you wont use your account for these purposes.

Burnsy2023 · 6 Aug 2008 at 09:42

Johnnytoxic said:
Go with the wireless excuse. That way they can't prove nothing.

I think Pipex hasa term in their contract where you have tomake sure your wireless networks are secured, so they could still terminate the contract.

Burnsy

Oxide™ · 6 Aug 2008 at 09:47

Damien. said:
What game was it, just so i can make sure i avoid it.

Thank you !

lol Im not going to name it just in case I get into more doodoo - but its a WWII pacific combat game

Mull3t said:
TBH, I would have thought they would have e-mailed your F2s account, I mean how would they have got your hotmain account?

Sure its not a hoax? asking you to visit a webpage and fill in details?

Im sure its legit - theres just too much correct information about me on it and they not asking my personal bank details etc.

[TR]SweetSpotOz · 6 Aug 2008 at 09:50

meghatronic · 6 Aug 2008 at 09:51

markyp23 said:
You are liable for everything done over your network. Including unsecure wireless access.

I don't think there has been a case through UK courts yet. (Germany has one I think).

Peter Diffey · 6 Aug 2008 at 09:51

Would use of peerguardian stop this?

Oxide™ · 6 Aug 2008 at 09:54

Can anyone please confirm if newsgroups are ok?

Sh3rlock · 6 Aug 2008 at 09:56

Oxlde said:
Can anyone please confirm if newsgroups are ok?

Not had any experiance with them, so i dont know.

Burnsy2023 · 6 Aug 2008 at 09:57

Oxlde said:
Can anyone please confirm if newsgroups are ok?

By ok, do you mean still illegal and therefore subject to the same punishments as p2p networks. If so, then yes, it's ok.

Burnsy

Ethics · 6 Aug 2008 at 09:59

Oxlde said:
I believe you pay for pc hardware enough - why then pay for software when these companies rip us off and are making a fortune.

(mental note - never use torrents)

What a load of rubbish, you choose to buy expensive hardware from company A, so don't think you should have to pay company B for their products?

Ignoring the fact you obviously do not realise the value of software and its development, that's the weakest defense i've ever seen. They are not ripping you off, it's your choice to buy or not. You are not entitled to something simply because you want it.

You can use encryption, there are still plenty of legit services using bittorrent. TBH a newsgroup isn't going to help, they can assume the activity from the amount of data and probably can you based on the contract and warning email. Which isn't such a bad idea considering your a numpty.

*edit* it's not the protocols/methods that are illegal, it's the IP you are downloading, would have thought that is obvious.

Slinwagh · 6 Aug 2008 at 10:00

Oxlde said:
I believe you pay for pc hardware enough - why then pay for software when these companies rip us off and are making a fortune.

(mental note - never use torrents)

Is that tongue in cheek or are you serious?

Mull3t · 6 Aug 2008 at 10:01

Ethics said:
What a load of rubbish, you choose to buy expensive hardware from company A, so don't think you should have to pay company B for their products?

Ignoring the fact you obviously do not realise the value of software and its development, that's the weakest defense i've ever seen. They are not ripping you off, it's your choice to buy or not. You are not entitled to something simply because you want it.

You can use encryption, there are still plenty of legit services using bittorrent. TBH a newsgroup isn't going to help, they can assume the activity from the amount of data and probably can you based on the contract and warning email. Which isn't such a bad idea considering your a numpty.

*edit* it's not the protocols/methods that are illegal, it's the IP you are downloading, would have thought that is obvious.

Chill ya beans

Oxide™ · 6 Aug 2008 at 10:02

Burnsy2023 said:
By ok, do you mean still illegal and therefore subject to the same punishments as p2p networks. If so, then yes, it's ok.

Burnsy

fair enough I wasnt very clear - I meant are newsgroups safer (harder to track what you are downloading) to download from if you use a download client for them?

Burnsy2023 · 6 Aug 2008 at 10:02

Ethics said:
What a load of rubbish, you choose to buy expensive hardware from company A, so don't think you should have to pay company B for their products?

I totally missed that very ignorant and inherantly stupid comment. Surely it can't be serious.

Burnsy

Knubje · 6 Aug 2008 at 10:04

Ethics said:
You can use encryption, there are still plenty of legit services using bittorrent. TBH a newsgroup isn't going to help, they can assume the activity from the amount of data and probably can you based on the contract and warning email. Which isn't such a bad idea considering your a numpty.
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Slinwagh · 6 Aug 2008 at 10:04

Oxlde said:
fair enough I wasnt very clear - I meant are newsgroups safer (harder to track what you are downloading) to download from if you use a download client for them?

Just buy the software, if you can not afford it then go without, it is that simple.

Burnsy2023 · 6 Aug 2008 at 10:04

Oxlde said:
fair enough I wasnt very clear - I meant are newsgroups safer (harder to track what you are downloading) to download from if you use a download client for them?

Not really. And I suggest reading the FAQ, you're walking the line about warez talk.

Burnsy

semi-pro waster · 6 Aug 2008 at 10:07

Ethics said:
What a load of rubbish, you choose to buy expensive hardware from company A, so don't think you should have to pay company B for their products?

Ignoring the fact you obviously do not realise the value of software and its development, that's the weakest defense i've ever seen. They are not ripping you off, it's your choice to buy or not. You are not entitled to something simply because you want it.

I personally thought it was a brilliant defence - I buy apples, why should I not get oranges for free?

The other thing about software is that there are so many great free alternatives if you just search around a little, they might not be quite as fully featured or easy to use but suck it up and spend a little time learning to get great results if you can't afford to buy the original.