http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SW-045-MS
is this the upgrade or the full version seems tobe very cheap
is this the upgrade or the full version seems tobe very cheap
VISTA ULTIMATE UPGRADE OR FULL
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Well £190 with the VAT.
As the advert doesn't mention Retail Upgrade then you can safely assume it is the Full Version (if not then you'll be demanding a refund I'm sure!).
Ultimate is quite probably more than you need, however for £190 you have a copy of the OS that is goof doe the life of Vista.
No matter how many times you upgrade your PC, change your PC you'll be able to transfer this license from machine to machine.
OEM Ultimate would set you back £90 and that's good for only one motherboard, so this is a bargain.
As the advert doesn't mention Retail Upgrade then you can safely assume it is the Full Version (if not then you'll be demanding a refund I'm sure!).
Ultimate is quite probably more than you need, however for £190 you have a copy of the OS that is goof doe the life of Vista.
No matter how many times you upgrade your PC, change your PC you'll be able to transfer this license from machine to machine.
OEM Ultimate would set you back £90 and that's good for only one motherboard, so this is a bargain.
so it is the full version then NOT UPGRADE i understand the licence on ultimate thats why i am going for that i allready have this due to this . just buying it for a frend i just wanted too not it was the full not upgrade due to price dam cheap that for what i payed
I got the Ultimate 32+64 ( 2 DVDs ) and its the UPGRADE.
While it says its the Upgrade, I have never been able to upgrade any Version of Windows at all, and I have only been able to install a fresh install onto a new HD!!!???
I did in fact setup a PC just to have a go, and it will not upgrade at all?
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On a better note, I feel that the upgrade is better than the Retail version for many reasons
Among the many reasons :-
> The Upgrade version is fully retail anyway
> The Upgrade covers any previous version of Windows
> The upgrade also means its a downgrade too, and you can in fact install it on any PC at any time you feel like, and you can chop and change between 32 and 64 bit and you are welcome to do this any number of times.
I have in fact owned this package since about March 2007 and I have installed both 32 bit versions and 64 Bit versions onto all my PCs and I have activated it on 9 of them.
NOT ALL AT THE SAME TIME OF COURSE - Im just seeing what the differences between 32 and 64 Bit are on each PC.
Its currently NOT installed on ANY PC.
So, my feelings are, taht the Upgrade is the best option if you want to be fully covered.
However, the Ultimate version is absolute crap and I think that the Premium is the best solution.
While it says its the Upgrade, I have never been able to upgrade any Version of Windows at all, and I have only been able to install a fresh install onto a new HD!!!???
I did in fact setup a PC just to have a go, and it will not upgrade at all?
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On a better note, I feel that the upgrade is better than the Retail version for many reasons
Among the many reasons :-
> The Upgrade version is fully retail anyway
> The Upgrade covers any previous version of Windows
> The upgrade also means its a downgrade too, and you can in fact install it on any PC at any time you feel like, and you can chop and change between 32 and 64 bit and you are welcome to do this any number of times.
I have in fact owned this package since about March 2007 and I have installed both 32 bit versions and 64 Bit versions onto all my PCs and I have activated it on 9 of them.
NOT ALL AT THE SAME TIME OF COURSE - Im just seeing what the differences between 32 and 64 Bit are on each PC.
Its currently NOT installed on ANY PC.
So, my feelings are, taht the Upgrade is the best option if you want to be fully covered.
However, the Ultimate version is absolute crap and I think that the Premium is the best solution.
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Did you ever run the installer from the DVD within an existing copy of Windows while it was running? It's the only way you can actually upgrade.... stick the DVD in a boot from it and the only option you'll get is a new install.
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That one's definitely the full version and not an upgrade. Bought it myself when it first hit the shop at the cheaper price and I can confirm it does exactly what you think it does and also comes with both 32 and 64bit discs.
If you know you want Ultimate and know you don't want an OEM copy, it's the one to go for, every time.
The issue with upgrade is that if you are upgrading from an OEM version of Windows, the minute you buy a new motherboard your upgrade version is now unlicensed until you buy a new license from which you can upgrade. Upgrade is only worthwhile if you've bought a full retail version of Windows at some point in the past, as far as I can see.
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Not true. The upgrade path is 2000 or XP.
That however, I do agree with (Unless you're on a domain)
Burnsy
Ah, erm... Oh.... Errrr?
( Fumbles for Disk... )
Oh buggering buggery! - I cant find my x64 disk?
Last time I used it was only 2 weeks ago... NOOO!!!!!
Yes, you are correct and I do know that, but anyone running anything before that, will not be on a PC that is capable of running Vista anyway, so I assumed that would be at least obvious.
And please before you go quoting me, Im not saying that a PC running Windows 98 is incapable of running Vista, Im only talking in general.
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Yes, you are correct and I do know that, but anyone running anything before that, will not be on a PC that is capable of running Vista anyway, so I assumed that would be at least obvious.
And please before you go quoting me, Im not saying that a PC running Windows 98 is incapable of running Vista, Im only talking in general.
The main reason I say that is if someone is running XP OEM and thinks they can use a 98 retail licence as a qualifying product to allow them equivilent FPP licence using an upgrade.
Burnsy
I see what you are saying, but then, XP OEM will also turn the Upgrade licence into a VISTA OEM licence. ( and they can also go back too. )
The Vista upgrade can upgrade ANY version of 2K or XP whether RETAIL or OEM, so, Windows 98 does not even come into it in this case does it?
The Vista upgrade can upgrade ANY version of 2K or XP whether RETAIL or OEM, so, Windows 98 does not even come into it in this case does it?
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Yes but that's not quite my point. Yes they can upgrade an OEM licence and then it would effectively be a Vista OEM licence, but obviously that has the same restrictions. I'm just saying that if you only had a XP oem licence, but wanted the flexability of a retail licence, you couldn't take an old 98 retail out of the depths of the draw to use as a qualifying product.
Don't get me wrong, a upgrade licence can be used on pretty much any current PC to great effect, but there are circumstances where maybe it wouldnt' be the best option.
Burnsy
Of course yes.
Again though, if someone had a Win98 Licence in some drawer somewhere, then buying the most expensive edition of Vista that money can buy is not what they will be doing is it? If anything, if they are trying to piggy off the back of 98 then it would be basic or Premium before ultimate surely?
Listen, this is going to get silly...
I think we are both accepting that going from 98 to Vista is not a normal thing to do!
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Ok, I found my Disk, and I just tried to upgrade from XP to Vista with my upgrade Disk and it failed.
I have grabbed a screenie, so...
http://www.fatrakoon.co.uk/fatrakoon/images/vista-upg-fail.jpg
So, no... It wont even upgrade using an upgrade disk...
Again though, if someone had a Win98 Licence in some drawer somewhere, then buying the most expensive edition of Vista that money can buy is not what they will be doing is it? If anything, if they are trying to piggy off the back of 98 then it would be basic or Premium before ultimate surely?
Listen, this is going to get silly...
I think we are both accepting that going from 98 to Vista is not a normal thing to do!
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Ok, I found my Disk, and I just tried to upgrade from XP to Vista with my upgrade Disk and it failed.
I have grabbed a screenie, so...
http://www.fatrakoon.co.uk/fatrakoon/images/vista-upg-fail.jpg
So, no... It wont even upgrade using an upgrade disk...
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I'll admit that people continually surprise me with outlandish ideas and stupidity. Never expect a base intelligence. But I think we've both made our points and further discussion is a bit pointless.
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Got SP2?
Burnsy
2K = SP4
XP = SP2 and now SP3
XP 64 = SP2
Not tried upping Vista32 to Vista64 though!
The only options I get ( And these are at different times ) are to install on a clean HD or alongside current O/S but never has it given me an option to upgrade...NEVER!
XP = SP2 and now SP3
XP 64 = SP2
Not tried upping Vista32 to Vista64 though!
The only options I get ( And these are at different times ) are to install on a clean HD or alongside current O/S but never has it given me an option to upgrade...NEVER!
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Thats a bit wierd as I've just tried it on a WinXP32 SP2 pc and the option has come up
Burnsy
Tell me about it.
Its not just this PC either, its done it on others too!
I must also stress, that I have never had a reliable Vista setup with the 64Bit Disk, and yet Premium 32 and Business 32 both installed onto a PC with no issues at all.
Could there possibly be something wrong with my 64Bit disk?
I had used this very disk to add SP1 and it went on fine, but I never got round to testing it out as at the time Iwas not in the mood for Vistas usual array of stupid irritating "Issues" when installing and so I just went with XP64 again!
So, the slipstream went in fine but not tested the disk, installation goes on fine and it lets me add SP1 after the install, and everythign does seem to go on fine, but it has never been without at least something going silly on it at random times.
I am putting this down to vista being vista, but im starting to think that maybe I have a freaky disk????
Im 50-50 on downloading a hookie ISO just to give it a shot next time ?
Its not just this PC either, its done it on others too!
I must also stress, that I have never had a reliable Vista setup with the 64Bit Disk, and yet Premium 32 and Business 32 both installed onto a PC with no issues at all.
Could there possibly be something wrong with my 64Bit disk?
I had used this very disk to add SP1 and it went on fine, but I never got round to testing it out as at the time Iwas not in the mood for Vistas usual array of stupid irritating "Issues" when installing and so I just went with XP64 again!
So, the slipstream went in fine but not tested the disk, installation goes on fine and it lets me add SP1 after the install, and everythign does seem to go on fine, but it has never been without at least something going silly on it at random times.
I am putting this down to vista being vista, but im starting to think that maybe I have a freaky disk????
Im 50-50 on downloading a hookie ISO just to give it a shot next time ?