Asus AI Booster and Six Engine - help or hinderence

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Hi

I have a Q6600/Asusp5q deluxe/2*2gig PC8500 ram and am looking to overclock from 2.4 to 3.0 on air cooling (Tuniq Tower 120)

My knowledge of OC is very basic - i sorta know what it is but the 'how' to actuall;y do it i am a bit scared of :(

Anyway, i installed the Asus AI booster (and Six Engine) thinking they would make things easier - but i'm not sure they do, they don't seem to intuitive ( or maybe my lack on knowledge) - does anyone use them and if so any recommendations on how best to use?

Other than that are there any very basica nd detailed step by step guides for beginners you would recommend?

Thanks

Diss

PS - why does my cpu multipler change between 6x and 9x - is it AI booster and/or 6 engine thats doing that as some sort of power saving?
 
If overclocking then uninstall the ASUS software.

CPU multi drops because of SpeedStep (an Intel thing, not an ASUS thing).

Getting a Q6600 to 3ghz should be as simple as setting the FSB to 334mhz. Set the PLL, FSB Term and NB voltages to +0.02v above their lowest non-auto setting (eg -1.52v, 1.22v etc).
 
Speedstep is changing your multiplyer.

Overclock in the bios. Always.
I have the same motherboard, cpu and cooler as you so if you get stuck or need any advice i should be able to help you.
 
thanks for the tips

Cob - can i make all those changes at once?

Also - i have one of the OCUK cpu's guaranteed to do 3.3 - can i then jump staright to this and if so what settings would you recommend?

thanks

Diss
 
also, in case it makes any difference the RAM is OCZ 4gb (2x2) PC2-8500C5 1066mhz Reaper HPC dual channel DDR2
 
Yeah you can change all those at once. Be sure to set the correct voltage for your memory (probably 2.1v).

You won't be able to jump straight to 3.3ghz without adjusting the voltages again. make sure 3ghz is stable first and then try 3.1ghz. It may need a little more CPU voltage. Once that's stable then try 3.2ghz, which again will need even more CPU voltage. Once that's stable then try for 3.3ghz.
 
Finally got around to playing with the ASUS EPU Six engine yesterday and it's actually pretty good! :)

I've been testing the board on manual for a few weeks, bit of overclocking, bit of undervolting etc and it's a really good board.

Once I installed the ASUS EPU drivers and set it to MAXIMUM powersaving mode it actually beat my best manual undervolting settings! but only because on MAXIMUM power savings the board runs your chip in a permanent SPEEDSTEP state (i.e It locks it on the lowest multi, cpu load or not).

I haven't yet had time to see if you can mix an overclock with the benefits of the EPU but I will as soon as I build my machine back together!

I've always done the overclocking in BIOS so can't really comment on the ASUS AI Booster, I did try this form of Windows overclocking before but the results were very mixed and normally resulted in a lock-up but as time passes I'm sure the windows overclocking software will improve so I will look into it when I have some more freetime.
 
75c under load is the sensible limit, tho the chip will go to about 95c before it starts to throttle and shut down.
 
50°C Full load is very good temps with Aircooling

65°C under full load is good temps with Aircooling

Depends whether you are all out drain every last MHz from your chip or instead squeeze the bulk of the extra speed without going crazy with the juice!

The Q6600 is in no way an energy efficient chip once you start overclocking it and pumping the volts, it's terrible! :(

By all means do as you will and have a good play with the chip but when deciding on your 24/7 speed make sure the temps don't exceed 65°C, it's not so much the temps per se but instead a rough guide to where the sweetspot of voltage vs MHz is :)

This post is made from the point of view that a computer should be as fast as possible while at the same time remaining as energy efficient as possible. who wants a sports car that can do 300MPH but uses a gallon every 3 miles! :cool:
 
Woop, Deluxe F t W

i can get 3.6 prime stable with my mobo using 1.375 in BIOS,all other voltages +2 than their auto setting.

idle temps are under 40,loads temps are under 50,so cant complain.
 
i just ran 3d mark (pre any OC) and checked temps in CORE TEMP

running prime 95 i am already at 45-48 for the cores (all temps in C)

but some of the temps i don't understand and look very high

SYSTIN 37
CPUTIN 33
AUXTIN 25

GPU got up to 81

these are all current temps with prime95 running

however, looking at tge max temps reached - which i assume was when
3DMark was running - were as follows:
SYSTIN 97
CPUTIN 44 oddly min temps were all just 1 degree
AUXTIN 76

What are these last 3 and are the temps very high?

thanks

Diss
 
MiNxYyY said:
Woop, Deluxe F t W

i can get 3.6 prime stable with my mobo using 1.375 in BIOS,all other voltages +2 than their auto setting.

idle temps are under 40,loads temps are under 50,so cant complain.
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nice one, primed mine the other night at 1.41250 vcore, 3.4 ghz. when i get the time im gonna try and do the same clockspeed with a lower vcore, as i just picked that voltage as a ballpark figure to see if i could get stable at that speed
 
Cob said:
If overclocking then uninstall the ASUS software.

CPU multi drops because of SpeedStep (an Intel thing, not an ASUS thing).

Getting a Q6600 to 3ghz should be as simple as setting the FSB to 334mhz. Set the PLL, FSB Term and NB voltages to +0.02v above their lowest non-auto setting (eg -1.52v, 1.22v etc).

Yeah you can change all those at once. Be sure to set the correct voltage for your memory (probably 2.1v).
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Ok, this is what i think i need to do then

CPU PLL voltage 1.52
FSB Terminmation voltage 1.22
NB voltage 1.12

Not sure about the next bit
Memory voltage = DRAM voltage - min stting is 1.8 ===> 1.82?
have i got the right setting here as you mentioned 2.1

Also, is it just these settings that need changing - only several of the settings have similar
names

Diss
 
Diss said:
Ok, this is what i think i need to do then

CPU PLL voltage 1.52
FSB Terminmation voltage 1.22
NB voltage 1.12

Not sure about the next bit
Memory voltage = DRAM voltage - min stting is 1.8 ===> 1.82?
have i got the right setting here as you mentioned 2.1

Also, is it just these settings that need changing - only several of the settings have similar
names

Diss
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You will need to set the DRAM voltage to 2.02v.
 
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