best place to buy sim free?
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To be honest mate, im also desperate for this phone. But im going to wait till its released first. Then see prices/reviews
reviews / videos on youtube show the phone of well.
the only worry I had was if the touch screen was pap but from the looks of things its pretty perfect.
its effectivly a laptop for starters, not a phone.
second, anyone with a contract pays that over 18 months, plus some.
18 * 35 = 630....
Why would someone want to buy a phone sim free when they can normally get the phone free on a contract? I guess you ahve to buy the sim free phone and then buy a contract for data and calling whcih would be a monthly charge plus the 450 for the phone in the first place.?
and to say the phone is free is a common misconception. you pay for it through your contract.
It's nothing like a laptop in all respects. £450 will buy you a really good laptop. This phone is the equivilent of an old p3 laptop with no keyboard. Also you can get almost all phones free on a contract. I've spent £100 on phones in 3 years and i've had 9 good / high end phones.
Yes you pay that with a contract, but also what do you get with a contract? Minutes and texts, i pay £25 a month and thats it.
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its 120grams and fits in to your pocket. It has GPS, blutooth/wifi, 5 mp camera, and is a phone.
A GPS system costs £100? A 5 MP camera Costs £100? A PDA costs £250?
i dont even want to get in to this debate because its pointless.
I am a business user and my needs are completly different to yours. i bet you havnt had any PDAs for 25/month.
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Jack of all trades but master of none.
The GPS on all phones is fiddly and not very user friendly.
Most phone cameras fall into the category of OMG more megapixels, you need a decent bit of glass in front a a decent sensor to get a nice pic, a phone can not do this.
To me a business phone is a communication device, it needs to have a long lasting batetry and does what is expected of it well - things like email and phonecalls.
It's not a pointless debate at all, there' no way you can tell me that you will not be able to function any better with a £500 do it all phone as opposed to a free with contract Nokia E51 for example and with the £500 save you can buy a proper GPS system that you can stick to your windscreen and wont loose where you are when answer it when it rings and a good camera to take nice pictures with. You'll find having to charge a device every day because its everything you need gets very irritating. I was a field engineer for a little and had an N95 which annoyed me to high hell because it didnt do any one thing well and the battery kept dying on me. I would have much rather had a decent phone and a Tom Tom
I have had a couple of orange SPV's on a £25 a month contract, so it is doable.
The GPS on all phones is fiddly and not very user friendly.
Most phone cameras fall into the category of OMG more megapixels, you need a decent bit of glass in front a a decent sensor to get a nice pic, a phone can not do this.
To me a business phone is a communication device, it needs to have a long lasting batetry and does what is expected of it well - things like email and phonecalls.
It's not a pointless debate at all, there' no way you can tell me that you will not be able to function any better with a £500 do it all phone as opposed to a free with contract Nokia E51 for example and with the £500 save you can buy a proper GPS system that you can stick to your windscreen and wont loose where you are when answer it when it rings and a good camera to take nice pictures with. You'll find having to charge a device every day because its everything you need gets very irritating. I was a field engineer for a little and had an N95 which annoyed me to high hell because it didnt do any one thing well and the battery kept dying on me. I would have much rather had a decent phone and a Tom Tom
I have had a couple of orange SPV's on a £25 a month contract, so it is doable.
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i think you should look in to the omnia a bit before passing stupid judgments.
the phone is £380 ex the vat (£500?), and as its a WM device you can use tomtom or any other GPS software. The camera is also being praised as one of the best so far on mobile phone devide to date for its features and ease of use.
the battery life is also much better than any other similar device out there. I have heard it lasts two days with medium use thanks to its Li-Ion 1440 mAh battery but even so a phone whose battery lasts longer than a working day is fine by me.
This phone can be had for free on contract by the way.
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I'm not argueing against the phone, i'm argueing the fact that paying so much for it is silly when i can be had free on a contract.
I have been looking at phones and had a play around with the omnia and it's like any other PDA and i wasnt that impressed at all. At £380 the Omnia is a very expensive PDA
The point im argueing is that i dont think that convergance of devices is a good thing, the camera takes decent pics but then again my digital camera which cost me £100 does a much better job, as for using tom tom on a mobile, its never gong to be as user friendly as a dedicated gps unit.
I'm not passing any stupid judgements at all, it seems like you've paid a lot of money for a device that to be honest is brilliant, but totally pointless and your defending your choice without acknowledging a single point i've made.
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Can only agree got a "free n95 8g" flogged after 2 months due to like you say jack of all trades master of none
Some people don't want to spend hundreds of pounds on separate devices, when one unit can do everything to a good enough standard to suit them.
I mean come on, look at the pictures from the Omnia, personally i can't understand where the hate comes from. The pictures they produce are MORE than enough and high quality. The only time i would use a expensive camera is for special things like weddings, where you would want pictures blown up loads.
Can't comment on GPS and the "not very user friendly" comments. Maybe you can explain some valid points about how a standard GPS is more friendly to the user than one on a phone like the Omnia. Because i've seen videos of peope using GPS systems on touch screen phones, and to be honest, it looks like a piece of ****. Touch a few buttons and your away.
I mean come on, look at the pictures from the Omnia, personally i can't understand where the hate comes from. The pictures they produce are MORE than enough and high quality. The only time i would use a expensive camera is for special things like weddings, where you would want pictures blown up loads.
Can't comment on GPS and the "not very user friendly" comments. Maybe you can explain some valid points about how a standard GPS is more friendly to the user than one on a phone like the Omnia. Because i've seen videos of peope using GPS systems on touch screen phones, and to be honest, it looks like a piece of ****. Touch a few buttons and your away.
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That's fine if you happen to be coming to the end of your contract. But a lot of people might be slap bang in the middle of their contract period, and thus cannot just get a new phone from the network. So you take out another contract to get the phone for 'free', but you pay £35 for the next 18 months for the priviledge. That's a total of £630, £130 more than just buying it outright for £500. Hardly a 'free' phone then, is it?!