I agree the GTX260 is a good buy and does overclock very well indeed but the 4870 1GB is really poor value considering you can pickup a GTX280 for just a little more.
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9800 GTX+ or 4850?
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I agree the GTX260 is a good buy and does overclock very well indeed but the 4870 1GB is really poor value considering you can pickup a GTX280 for just a little more.
Id get a single 4870 for that resolution, its not much slower than the GTX 280 (only about 10%), and it also beats it in some at that res to with 4xAA, also its a lot cheaper, the GTX 280 just isn't worth the extra over it.
If you get the 280, then your going to pay about an extra £50+ for a slightly faster card, thats also slower in some as well, you may as well save that.
I've owned both cards and theres no comparison between them, the 280 is hands down better. The extra RAM also has the advantage of quicker loading times and a overall smoother experience.
Yeah i realised that soon after so edited my post, but you replied quicker!
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gtx 280 or 260 are both quite overclockable, a few mates have achieved almost a 30% increase
Neither buy 1 higher end GPU in the first place and feel the benifit in every game, without having to live with the bugs and problems of multi GPU setups.
Also your choice of motherboard will be effected by this choice as an sli solution would require and Nvidia chipset.
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I know how you feel man, it used to be you came to a form, gave your price range, and it was just a case of picking what Nvidia card you would like.
ahhh those where the days
4870 all the way or if you can wait a month or so the new 4850X2 which is rumoured to outperform a GTX280 by up to 34% but will be a lot cheaper.
4850 can actually handle up to 1920x1200 right now as like the 4870 it has shader based AA which is cheap on performance so you could get a single 4850 now then see how that handles the games you play and buy another to CF them if you want more performance.
Even 4850 CF will probably beat a GTX280 in some games.
Forget that the 4850/70 only has 512MB as ATI texture management is better so its no disadvantage but you would find 1920x1200 is your maximum res.
GTX260 + 280 are old tech and Nvidia will release updated + versions in the next 2-3 months so not much point buying into obsolete tech is there.
Just do a search on here for 4870 or 4850 as loads of threads similar to this one.
Your motherboard choice should be an Intel based chipset either P45, X48 or X38 all depends on how much you want to spend really. Look in the motherboard forums and see what people recommend there before buying.
Good luck.
4850 can actually handle up to 1920x1200 right now as like the 4870 it has shader based AA which is cheap on performance so you could get a single 4850 now then see how that handles the games you play and buy another to CF them if you want more performance.
Even 4850 CF will probably beat a GTX280 in some games.
Forget that the 4850/70 only has 512MB as ATI texture management is better so its no disadvantage but you would find 1920x1200 is your maximum res.
GTX260 + 280 are old tech and Nvidia will release updated + versions in the next 2-3 months so not much point buying into obsolete tech is there.
Just do a search on here for 4870 or 4850 as loads of threads similar to this one.
Your motherboard choice should be an Intel based chipset either P45, X48 or X38 all depends on how much you want to spend really. Look in the motherboard forums and see what people recommend there before buying.
Good luck.
All DX10 and better cards "have" and are capable of shader based AA, that comment alone tells me you don't have a clue what your talking about.
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Ati cards have the ability to do x4 aa without a hit when games are released that support dx 10.1 and in my opinion that will bring it on par with the gtx280. Dx10.1 will also support dx11 which i am lead to believe dx 10 won't. Also if you look at the high end at the top res with aa the 280 is only a mid to high card also as the 4870x2 stomps all over it being in some games 70 percent faster.
Don't bother trying to defend him, thats not what he was saying. He was trying to claim shader based AA is a new feature exclusive to the 4800 series and that it most definitely is not.
Yes, the 4870X2 is great at 2560x1600 with AA, i'm sure users with 30" monitors are frilled.
As for the crap about DX11, thats a long way off and this is all I have to say about the matter.
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I wasn't mate just my personal opinion up to 1900 res the gtx280 is on par with the x2 but add in lots off aa it will fall behind its more in the league of the 4870 which is ati's mid to high card up the res and theres no copetition at 25 res with aa from what i have seen in reviews. 4 series are ahead in my opinion of what they are able to do when games are released with new features such as dx10.1 and 11.
Edit just read again looks like dx10 will support dx11 but also looks like ati's tessalation is gonna be used in dx11 just think ati gives you that little bit more future in your card than nv's. Free aa is gonna bring the 4870 on par with a 280 which the 260 will never be able to do and even without the free aa in some games the 4870 is faster.
Edit just read again looks like dx10 will support dx11 but also looks like ati's tessalation is gonna be used in dx11 just think ati gives you that little bit more future in your card than nv's. Free aa is gonna bring the 4870 on par with a 280 which the 260 will never be able to do and even without the free aa in some games the 4870 is faster.
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4850 F T W, buy a NV card and it will be obsolete in two weeks.They treat the consumer like dog ****.
What because they continually improve their product...
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What because they continually improve their product...
No because its the best your money can buy for the price and gives you most of the reasons i state above. Nv decided to bring out fast cards on old tech thats all there is to it.
Judging cards based on how they might perform in the future is stupid, and calling a card "old tech" because it lack a feature which may or may not help performance in the future is equally so.
Most likely by the time DX10.1 starts being used widely we'll have a whole new series of cards from both companies and nobody will give a ratz ass.
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Well for the people that don't upgrade gpu's as much as some it may well help as ati will have the free 4x aa while nvidia won't this time around. It does matter in any way you look at it. AA performance at 8x or over is better on the 4870 than the 260 then give it free 4xaa it matters even more as far as performance matters. Why buy a card at the same price as the 4870 when it has less features and performs less with aa its a no brainer tbh. Its not just a might perform look at what the 3870 was able to do with dx10.1 in assasins creed compared to dx10.
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Yeah, damn them for developing PhysX support for my 21 month old card.4850 F T W, buy a NV card and it will be obsolete in two weeks.
Yeah, damn them for developing PhysX support for my 21 month old card.
You know performance on the 9 and 8 series and improved allot since the launch of the GTX series, think I gained over 1000pts in the vantage GPU test on my old 8800GTX in the last month alone....Damn nvidia indeed.
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You know performance on the 9 and 8 series and improved allot since the launch of the GTX series, think I gained over 1000pts in the vantage GPU test alone on my old 8800GTX in the last month alone....Damn nvidia indeed.
Bet you wish it was more use in games though lol. Its a nice touch but far from being much use atm. No games developer would even consider a game that alienates almost half of all games machines. Would have been nice to see 3dmark being dx10.1 also to even the balance but as i ain't much of a bencher does not bother me.