Halal food acceptable in Britain?
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Well wouldn't a good first step being a uniform slaughter policy?
I don't think we can really comment to much on the cruelty of halal when you look at how animals are treated in this country in general. The worst thaat springs to my mind are the videos of the battery chickens that are kept in the tiny cages then go though all those machines chopping the beaks off whilst they're still alive and all the other lovely stuff that goes with it.
I'm not trying to preach btw, i like my chicken and I know that to farm them all in a cruelty free way would mean hugely reduced supplies and massively increased prices.
I'm not trying to preach btw, i like my chicken and I know that to farm them all in a cruelty free way would mean hugely reduced supplies and massively increased prices.
nothing wrong with British veal.
Just British veal?
All depends if you think keeping them from moving is acceptable. Pretty similar conditions to chicken battery farming.
but yet chicken framing is fine but veal is the devils spawn.
Why would that be then? We would have more independent small-medium sized farms if they hadn't been knocked out by judicious regulation and subsidised agribusiness. But then a discussion along those lines is probably beyond the scope of the thread...
Well I certainly wouldn't class chicken batteries as acceptable either, and there was a campaign to stop them earlier this year.
But British veal isn't farmed like that. There is no reason not to buy British veal. It is such a tasty meat you are missing out on due to outdated rubbish.
Well that's good to know then. I assume you're referring to veal produced under the RSPCA's freedom foods thing? (which I've just read about on wiki
). Is that compulsory or optional?Well that's good to know then. I assume you're referring to veal produced under the RSPCA's freedom foods thing? (which I've just read about on wiki
no, just British veal. There's only a few farms which do it.
Well I don't mean to state it as an absolute fact, I would have thought that to meet the massive demand for meat in this country whilst going back to traditional farming methods would be pretty tricky. They obviously use the battery methods to save money etc so going real free range must cost more money and reduce the quantities available which will in turn further put prices up. I said real free range as I don't believe the current free range is actually what we imagine it to be most of the time. It conjures an image of chickens running free around the farmhouse but from what I hear it's more likely they have a small area outside the cage they could go into but they don't because they've gone a bit loopy from the way they're treated.
At the moment we have free range/organic alternatives, but they still have to compete in price with the battery meat so they're limited on what they can charge.
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It also costs to have those intensive processes in the first place...then look at CAP and how wasteful it actually is, thanks to EU regs perfectly good food gets thrown.
Woops, I just assumed all veal was farmed that way, my bad.
Oh I know the current method is wasteful + very far from perfect! I was just commenting on my thought that it would be cost more if instead of a small cage and factory processing they had to provide a larger area with freedom to move around and then killed them all in a humane way.
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Halal meat is only tolerated because of who makes and eats it. It is cruel when there are better ways of preparing the animals which cause less suffering. I always find it funny when Halal takeaways serve Ham and Pineapple pizza. Maybe it's just me?
I think that's an easy conclusion to jump to, but seeing as we're pretty tolerant of inhumane treatment towards animals so long as it's just the ones going into our food supply and not anything cute then I don't think it's a fair conclusion.
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IMO it's not acceptable and it shouldn't be allowed. The same goes to every other practice in this country regarding animal farming which causes unnecessary suffering. If we are going to farm animals for meat and such at least do it in a dignified manner, give them a decent life while they're here and inflict as little suffering and pain as possible.