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How can you dive if there was clear contact? And if it was a dive then why wasn't he booked?
Two games, two penalty decisions for Celtic - Just remember they even themselves out over the course of the season - it would be great to start in two weeks time and see the difference in reaction
It was a dive because the contact by Caldwell didn't bring the player down. The player felt the contact, waited, then threw himself to the ground.
It was an almost identical incident to the one involving Nakamura at Dundee United in the last game of last season. Defender slides and clips Nakamura, Nakamura goes down theatrically. No penalty given.
Utter utter drivel.
To say "Caldwell didn`t bring the player down" and " he dived" and "The contact was not enough to make the player fall over" is more or less what i expect of followers of Steak Pie FC.
Desperation.
I`m not for a minute saying the referees are biased, just that they are chronically poor.
There is another theory that the years of intimidation of referees by timothy is now paying dividends, however, i`d rather not go down that route.
For now.
To say "Caldwell didn`t bring the player down" and " he dived" and "The contact was not enough to make the player fall over" is more or less what i expect of followers of Steak Pie FC.
Desperation.
I`m not for a minute saying the referees are biased, just that they are chronically poor.
There is another theory that the years of intimidation of referees by timothy is now paying dividends, however, i`d rather not go down that route.
For now.
Utter utter drivel.
To say "Caldwell didn`t bring the player down" and " he dived" and "The contact was not enough to make the player fall over" is more or less what i expect of followers of Steak Pie FC.
Desperation.
I`m not for a minute saying the referees are biased, just that they are chronically poor.
There is another theory that the years of intimidation of referees by timothy is now paying dividends, however, i`d rather not go down that route.
For now.
He fouled McManus before it even got to the Caldwell tackle. When the Caldwell challenge came in he waited before throwing himself to the ground. If you watch it you can see that Caldwell pulls his leg back and there is minimal contact. It does look reckless from a distance though.
I would say JVOH's bear hug on Wilkie in the first half was more of a penalty.
What is Steak Pie FC out of interest? Cause Skippy and Boruc are fatties?
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Here's a video I found of the incident for anyone who hasn't seen it:
Pretty sure any neutral that knows anything about football can see Caldwell has pulled out of the challenge, his leg isn't outstretched and there isn't a contact or momentum hard enought to topple the player. 100% dive.
Pretty sure any neutral that knows anything about football can see Caldwell has pulled out of the challenge, his leg isn't outstretched and there isn't a contact or momentum hard enought to topple the player. 100% dive.
Every commentator / analyst on Setanta and BBC Scotland said it was a stonewall pentalty.
Are you telling me there not neutral and no nothing about football?
The guy from Setanta when interviewing Craig Levein said something along the lines. "How does it feel to have yet another decision go against your team, it was pretty clear to us it was a stone wall penalty"
First impressions last I think. It looked like an absolute stonewall on first viewing.
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Yes. Well at least one or the other, occasionally both. Although it's possible they are simply courting controversy as well seeing as it is good for their profession.
Although they didn't have much to say about Rangers getting a controversial free-kick and penalty for each of their goals yesterday however... not to mention a Hearts player sent off for diving whilst a Rangers players dive gets a free-kick. Neither do any of the Rangers fans or alleged fans of other teams in this thread either... strange that.
He fouled McManus before it even got to the Caldwell tackle. When the Caldwell challenge came in he waited before throwing himself to the ground. If you watch it you can see that Caldwell pulls his leg back and there is minimal contact. It does look reckless from a distance though.
I would say JVOH's bear hug on Wilkie in the first half was more of a penalty.
What is Steak Pie FC out of interest? Cause Skippy and Boruc are fatties?
Let`s agree to disagree on this one mate.
Since you`ve mentioned mince, lets talk about Andreas Hinkel.
For a player to boast FB Stuttgart and Seville on his list of previous clubs you`d think you would get something better than a carthorse?.
I did.
Fair enough mate. What does the Steak Pie FC thing mean btw, seen it a few times now. Cheers.
No one bothering with this thread? 
A weekend of poor refereeing decisions again dominate the headlines.
I think this over 45 years old rule on Ref`s needs to be scrapped. Hugh Dallas was and probably still is the best referee we`ve had for decades and he`s retired at 46.
The standard is just absolutely dire and i feel now is the time to pilot TV footage for marginal decisions.
Referees cannot continue to be the main talking point among fans after games.
Anyway, back to the actual league table. C*ltic claw back 2 points with a 3-0 trouncing of Falkirk as Rangers are denied all 3 points with a staggeringly poor offside decision by the linesman.
Mendes looks an absolute steal at 3m and i didn`t like what i saw of Maloney on Saturday. Looks much more polished as a player and some of his link up play was scarily good.
Derby day should be good this coming weekend. Just a pity it`s come too soon for Barry Ferguson.
A weekend of poor refereeing decisions again dominate the headlines.
I think this over 45 years old rule on Ref`s needs to be scrapped. Hugh Dallas was and probably still is the best referee we`ve had for decades and he`s retired at 46.
The standard is just absolutely dire and i feel now is the time to pilot TV footage for marginal decisions.
Referees cannot continue to be the main talking point among fans after games.
Anyway, back to the actual league table. C*ltic claw back 2 points with a 3-0 trouncing of Falkirk as Rangers are denied all 3 points with a staggeringly poor offside decision by the linesman.
Mendes looks an absolute steal at 3m and i didn`t like what i saw of Maloney on Saturday. Looks much more polished as a player and some of his link up play was scarily good.
Derby day should be good this coming weekend. Just a pity it`s come too soon for Barry Ferguson.
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No one bothering with this thread?
The whole Old Firm rivalry gets a bit boring after a while if you don't support one of the teams, perhaps it gets boring even if you do. But I hadn't been participating more due to forgetting about this thread than anything else.
The rest of the results for the weekend below. If Hearts can keep winning even without playing particularly well I'll settle for that, it can't be much worse than last season I'd hope.
Celtic 3-0 Falkirk
Hearts 2-1 St Mirren
Inverness CT 1-1 Hibernian
Kilmarnock 1-0 Hamilton Accies
Motherwell 1-1 Dundee United
Aberdeen 1-1 Rangers
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It's odd to hear so many Rangers fans cry 'conspiracy' or 'incompetence' when for so long during the 90s it was them who benefited from the bizarre refereeing decisions and anyone who dared point it out was dismissed as 'paranoid'.....hmmmm maybe it takes more than a season for these things to 'even themselves out'?
He is apparently hesitant to explain it. I know what it refers to, and, like many steak pies, it's incredibly tasteless, somewhat bitter and rather hard to swallow. But hey, it's all just a bit of banter so that's OK!
No one bothering with this thread?
A weekend of poor refereeing decisions again dominate the headlines.
I think this over 45 years old rule on Ref`s needs to be scrapped. Hugh Dallas was and probably still is the best referee we`ve had for decades and he`s retired at 46.
The standard is just absolutely dire and i feel now is the time to pilot TV footage for marginal decisions.
Referees cannot continue to be the main talking point among fans after games.
Anyway, back to the actual league table. C*ltic claw back 2 points with a 3-0 trouncing of Falkirk as Rangers are denied all 3 points with a staggeringly poor offside decision by the linesman.
Mendes looks an absolute steal at 3m and i didn`t like what i saw of Maloney on Saturday. Looks much more polished as a player and some of his link up play was scarily good.
Derby day should be good this coming weekend. Just a pity it`s come too soon for Barry Ferguson.
I thought Mendez looked a bit poor on Saturday, first time I've seen him play. By all accounts he was excellent against Hearts the week before.
Next week should be interesting. Rangers are a lot stronger than they were a couple of weeks ago, and I am still not 100% happy with my team. Reckon we need a couple of key players to bolster the first team. I think it could go either way. Do you think Smith will go 451? I hope we start with Samaras and Maloney as Skippy and JVOH have looked very flat so far this season.
McRod, what does the Steak Pie FC thing mean?
Decent result given that Hibs rarely even score up there.
Am I right in thinking it's got something to do with Phil O'Donnell and/or Tommy Burns?