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AMD Readies Shanghai to Battle Nehalem

Makes little difference to me. When the time comes to do a full upgrade I'll just buy whatever is the best performance for the money i have to spend. AMD or intel.
 
strange tactic to keep it on the opteron platform, generally when companies upgrade servers they upgrade the box, not just the cpu, so all its doing is saving amd money as it means they dont have to develop an entirely new chipset and socket

seems a lot like damage control to me rather than a competing product, especially given how thin details are on this product, time will tell i suppose
 
think AMD is highly likely to destroy intel.

Businesses and home users DO not overclock, and currently AMD is still as good if not better clock for clock compared to current intels.

Considering that AMD will be cheaper as they dont need an entirely new system and only replace the CPU, its far cheaper and great performance, with intel they will need to change everything and will cost more than just the processor..

Whatever company goes for the more expensive solution is just not run well or retarded
 
platinum87 said:
think AMD is highly likely to destroy intel.

Businesses and home users DO not overclock, and currently AMD is still as good if not better clock for clock compared to current intels.

Considering that AMD will be cheaper as they dont need an entirely new system and only replace the CPU, its far cheaper and great performance, with intel they will need to change everything and will cost more than just the processor..

Whatever company goes for the more expensive solution is just not run well or retarded
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Nehalem won't be much more effective for games clock for clock according to the first reports, no better integer support, higher latency on caches etc. If AMD optimizes to beat Intel clock for clock in games, it will be fine as long as it can get 3Ghz+ chips out there a bit cheaper than Intel's.
 
Talrinys said:
Nehalem won't be much more effective for games clock for clock according to the first reports, no better integer support, higher latency on caches etc. If AMD optimizes to beat Intel clock for clock in games, it will be fine as long as it can get 3Ghz+ chips out there a bit cheaper than Intel's.
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you mean clock for clock against AMD or current 45nm intel chips? i read should be like 15%-25% better clock for clock compared to current 45nm intel CPU's..

no idea how good AMD will be but yea, i think its mainly marketting, a lot of people think core2duo is better than AMD chips when this isnt the case on stock speeds.

I wouldnt mine giving AMD another shot but like always i will pick whatever is better performance for under a certain price regardless who makes the processor :D
 
silversurfer said:
Some utilities can use the gpu for workload now, physics calculations, increasingly your idea might not be so silly :cool:
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Yarp, F@H being the main public app I guess. So instead of keeping with current cpu architecture, we should push cpu manufacturers towards multiple gpu cores, and tell software houses to code their apps and games accordingly :) In the words of Jeremy Clarkson "sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet".
 
You never know, whose to say AMD won't spring a surprise here. I doubt Shanghai would beat Nehalem but if it could be competitive i.e. within 10 to 5% range and price worthy then it would be a good result for AMD at this stage. They would have clawed back a big performance margin. But its all ifs and buts, i remember this time last year AMD talking up Barcelona, we all know the outcome of that.
 
finite said:
Cheers for the link I didn't realise the Nehalem was going to be a bit of a backward step for gaming. The 32nm are also a long way off.
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It won't be a backward step. It will have same or a bit better IPC, native power efficient memory setup with DDR3, native quad core etc. You don't need a faster processor for gaming anyway, if you think so stop listening to marketing tricks. A more efficient architecture that can later be dieshrunk, as the plan is, is much much better, espically with the clock speeds even those quadcores should hit.
 
Greebo said:
The problem with saying things like that based on gut instinct, assuming you don't work for AMD designing their cpus?, is that you can be made to look a fool if it turns our not to be true.

I remember people saying the same thing about ATI before the 4850 launch. Look how many people had to eat their words then? :p
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I totally see your point and I hope that I do eat my own words. Because we need competition due to the fact it’s healthy and a lot better for costs.

RoEy
 
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