Anyone with a 48xx and Vista 64?

[J.D]

Yeah my next card will not be an AMD card, i won't make that mistake again.

I know this is a major problem for some people but ATI have quite a great run without driver issues until the 4 series in Vista. The 2900XT cards were supported in Vista much better than any Nvidia card before they were even released. Everyone gave Nvidia time (6 months IIRC) to sort out the BSOD nonsense so why are people going ape over the 48-- series cards which haven't even been out 2 months yet?. With ATI bringing such a great performing cards to us all for so cheap compared to the GTX 260 and 280 prices at launch it is clear to see that ATI are wanting to battle it out with Nvidia this time round so I think they'll be wanting any issues sorted out as quick as possible. Hang in there .

 

[Talrinys]

I know this is a major problem for some people but ATI have quite a great run without driver issues until the 4 series in Vista. The 2900XT cards were supported in Vista much better than any Nvidia card before they were even released. Everyone gave Nvidia time (6 months IIRC) to sort out the BSOD nonsense so why are people going ape over the 48-- series cards which haven't even been out 2 months yet?. With ATI bringing such a great performing cards to us all for so cheap compared to the GTX 260 and 280 prices at launch it is clear to see that ATI are wanting to battle it out with Nvidia this time round so I think they'll be wanting any issues sorted out as quick as possible. Hang in there .

Well this driver release did fix and issue or two for me - but i still don't have a lot of hope when people are saying that the dualmonitor x64 vista issue has been here since the 3xxx series and have not even warranted a response from AMD despite some serious posts on their site. Hopefully 8.9 will fix some things

 

[Vertigo]

I don't have that problem tho with my 3 monitors & im on vista 64 ultimate & 3 way crossfire 3870.

The clue is right there in my post as to why i don't get the problems as many others.

Who cares? There's a well documented problem with the 4870, Vista x64 and dual-monitors that a great many people are experiencing. Whatever the reasons for you not having the problem don't really interest me - enough people are for me to be put off the card.

And perhaps you should stop making gross assumptions. You asked me to explain why I'm "always having to wait for ATI to fix crappy drivers" yet I've not had an ATI card for over four years now. I was on the brink of going back to the ATI camp after a long time with NVidia but their failure to produce decent drivers this time round has scuppered that and lost them a customer. Maybe next time.

 

[MR.B]

I know this is a major problem for some people but ATI have quite a great run without driver issues until the 4 series in Vista. The 2900XT cards were supported in Vista much better than any Nvidia card before they were even released. Everyone gave Nvidia time (6 months IIRC) to sort out the BSOD nonsense so why are people going ape over the 48-- series cards which haven't even been out 2 months yet?. With ATI bringing such a great performing cards to us all for so cheap compared to the GTX 260 and 280 prices at launch it is clear to see that ATI are wanting to battle it out with Nvidia this time round so I think they'll be wanting any issues sorted out as quick as possible. Hang in there .

This is an issue thats apparently been around since 7 series drivers on Vista. Which must be well over 18 months... i've had Vista since day of release, and i did get this "Display driver stopped responding" for the first two weeks with my 8800GTX, but NV soon sorted that, and i never had a problem since with a 8800GTX, 9800GX2, GTX 260 and GTX 280. I got all them cards on release too and the drivers worked from day one.

Anyway just installed the 8.8 finals for my X2 and will see how this goes. Took 2 tries to even get them to install though, but they finally fixed the blocky video issue i used to get when "automatic deinterlacing" was enabled.

 

[J.D]

Well this driver release did fix and issue or two for me - but i still don't have a lot of hope when people are saying that the dualmonitor x64 vista issue has been here since the 3xxx series and have not even warranted a response from AMD despite some serious posts on their site. Hopefully 8.9 will fix some things

Well that is good to hear that at least. I just hope all is resolved soon for people having issues. I didn't know it was a problem during even the 3 series though. I've ran dual screens before but I'm on XP. I tried Vista but it wasn't anything special so I went back to XP.

With how much effort ATI have put into this card it would be a waste to let this continue without addressing it. I can't see them producing these cards, killing off Nvidia's crazy prices then having driver problems with dual screens in Vista x64 giving Nvidia more sales for too long.

 

[J.D]

This is an issue thats apparently been around since 7 series drivers on Vista. Which must be well over 18 months... i've had Vista since day of release, and i did get this "Display driver stopped responding" for the first two weeks with my 8800GTX, but NV soon sorted that, and i never had a problem since with a 8800GTX, 9800GX2, GTX 260 and GTX 280. I got all them cards on release too and the drivers worked from day one.

Anyway just installed the 8.8 finals for my X2 and will see how this goes. Took 2 tries to even get them to install though, but they finally fixed the blocky video issue i used to get when "automatic deinterlacing" was enabled.

Ahh so you received some issues but your problem vanished quite quickly. Fair enough for you on that part but issues went well beyond that and for a lot longer from the reports from launch date to 6 months later until Nvidia released a driver that mysteriously tied into the 2900XT release . This driver sorted a lot of the problems out and Nvidia wasn't the biggest reason for BSOD on Vista any longer.

I'm an XP user with no want to move to Vista. been there, wore that T-shirt . So I won't ever run into these problems. I honestly have never had a problem with Nvidia or ATI in the driver department, neither has my friend who uses Vista x64 (well, after it was out for a little while ). He's not using dual screens though which makes his journey a pretty pointless one to highlight .

Good luck with the new drivers and I hope that your issues are resolved. If not today then very soon at least.

 

[SS-89]

This is an issue thats apparently been around since 7 series drivers on Vista. Which must be well over 18 months... i've had Vista since day of release, and i did get this "Display driver stopped responding" for the first two weeks with my 8800GTX, but NV soon sorted that, and i never had a problem since with a 8800GTX, 9800GX2, GTX 260 and GTX 280. I got all them cards on release too and the drivers worked from day one.

Anyway just installed the 8.8 finals for my X2 and will see how this goes. Took 2 tries to even get them to install though, but they finally fixed the blocky video issue i used to get when "automatic deinterlacing" was enabled.

Yes but just because you may not have experienced issues plenty of others have with nvidia cards. It's swings and roundabouts really as due to a multitude of configurations there will be compatability problems. I for one have had no issues, yet I'm not naive enough to think that nobody else has, when clearly there are plenty of people who are having issues with ati drivers. If you have had zero problems with nvidia then it may just be that nvidia cards are more compatible with your current build.

 

[Fire Wizard]

If it can be both.
Overclocking the gfx card can do that as well.

Hello Final8y, I guess it could be.

Sounds more like a driver issue to me which means it'll likely be fixed eventually.

Seems to be a Driver issue. Wouldn't hold your breath waiting for ATI to fix this, apparently they have had this problem since 7 series drivers.

Do you have Vista? dual displays?

Hello Vertigo1 and MR.B, I am using Windows Vista 64-bit and I am only using a single screen. I have just updated to the 8.8 Catalyst drivers and I still receive the same error message.

Another problem that I am experiencing is that every so often, the monitor goes into like a sleep mode where the light on the monitor turns orange but the system is still running. The only way to come out of it is if I reset the system using the reset button on the tower.

Is it possible that there is an actual problem with my graphics card?

Thanks for all of the replies.

 

[Final8y]

Who cares? There's a well documented problem with the 4870, Vista x64 and dual-monitors that a great many people are experiencing. Whatever the reasons for you not having the problem don't really interest me - enough people are for me to be put off the card.

And perhaps you should stop making gross assumptions. You asked me to explain why I'm "always having to wait for ATI to fix crappy drivers" yet I've not had an ATI card for over four years now. I was on the brink of going back to the ATI camp after a long time with NVidia but their failure to produce decent drivers this time round has scuppered that and lost them a customer. Maybe next time.

Well with that who cares attitude then no wonder your getting problems & no help to anyone else.
But never mind i will keep enjoying my trouble free ATI experiences seeing as you lack the wisdom, patience & methodical mind to get what you want while avoiding the pitfalls even tho its a very simple task.
Look at how bad the vista GTX 8800 drivers where for a very long time but i think most will say that the GTX 8800 has been a cracking card. but nope you would never buy one because the drivers were not good for the 6 months while ati are usually upto scratch with in half the time.

 

[Final8y]

Hello Final8y, I guess it could be.

If you have over clocked the card then run it at stock. if it still does that then it may be a faulty card, but also google to see if others with the same monitor are having the same problem as it can be a driver incompatibility with your monitor & if so others will have the same problem with that monitor type.

 

[Fire Wizard]

If you have over clocked the card then run it at stock. if it still does that then it may be a faulty card, but also google to see if others with the same monitor are having the same problem as it can be a driver incompatibility with your monitor & if so others will have the same problem with that monitor type.

Hello Final8y, the graphics card is indeed running at stock speeds. I am currently using a Dell 2407 WFP monitor and have searched Google with regards to what you have said but couldn't find anything remotely related.

 

[Final8y]

Hello Final8y, the graphics card is indeed running at stock speeds. I am currently using a Dell 2407 WFP monitor and have searched Google with regards to what you have said but couldn't find anything remotely related.

do you have PCIE voltage setting in the bios..if so move it up 1 step.
Oh & what PSU ?

 

[tdream]

I have vista 64 and use ati tools (0.27b4) with no problem with signing.


http://www.overclock.net/downloads/138452-atitool.html

Ati Tray Tools =/= Ati Tool

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI_Tray_Tools

 

[Fire Wizard]

do you have PCIE voltage setting in the bios..if so move it up 1 step.
Oh & what PSU ?

Hi Final8y, I have just tried upping the PCI-E voltage up a notch but I still receive the same error message. My entire system is running at stock speeds. I also have a Corsair HX 520W Power Supply Unit.

I'm going to try a different graphics card in my system tomorrow to see if the problem still persists.

Thanks for your help.

 

[Paradiso]

This problem has been around since I switched to vista x64 with my old 2900XT card with dual monitors right back when vista was launched, and is still present with 4870x2. I dont think its all to do with the ati drivers though, more vista is causing the issue as Nvidia cards have had the same problem with the "stop responding" error.

I never had a dual monitor issue with XP, but as I have a single 24 monitor now I dont bother with dual screens and have since had no crashes under vista x64 at all.

 

[MR.B]

Hi Final8y, I have just tried upping the PCI-E voltage up a notch but I still receive the same error message. My entire system is running at stock speeds. I also have a Corsair HX 520W Power Supply Unit.

I'm going to try a different graphics card in my system tomorrow to see if the problem still persists.

Thanks for your help.

Did you try another card today? I'm betting you will not have the problem aslong as it's a NV card, as with me.

And i've tried pretty much everything and it will not solve this issue, just look at all the stuff i've tried in my original post! lol. Same with many people on the AMD forums, this seems to be purely a ATI driver issue.

@ Paradiso, many things can cause the "display driver stop responding" message, but if NV can get two monitors working with there cards then i dont see why ATI cant, especially this long after Vista has been released.
It dont even seem to be tied to two monitors (just more likely to get it), Fire Wizard has one and he gets it, and i still got it with either one or two monitors.

 

[Paradiso]

Guess I've been lucky then, never seen this problem on a single monitor setup, add my second one and I'm guaranteed to get this issue with the day.

 

[Fire Wizard]

Hiya everyone,

Just a little update with regards to the problems that I am experiencing. For the second time now, I have reinstalled Windows Vista 64-bit but the problem of receiving the "Display driver stopped responding" message is still there. So, I then took the ATI 4870 out of my machine and popped in a ATI X1950XT, I played Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare for quite a while and didn't experience any problems what so ever. This is using the Catalyst 8.8 drivers, exactly the same as the ones I was using with the ATI 4870. I then put the ATI 4870 back in the machine and pretty much straight away, I get the "Display driver stopped responding" message. So, is it fair to say that the drivers aren't at fault here and the motherboard isn't the problem either?

I then change my Corsair HX 520W power supply unit to my brand new Corsair HX620W just in case the power supply was faulty but I still experienced the same problems.

Does this mean that the likelihood of it being the actual ATI 4870 graphics card is pretty high?

Thanks for everyone's help by the way.

 

[mmj_uk]

Does this mean that the likelihood of it being the actual ATI 4870 graphics card is pretty high?

The two cards will use different (although similar) driver paths so you can't rule out the drivers.

Have you tried the fan at 100% to rule out overheating?

 

[Fire Wizard]

The two cards will use different (although similar) driver paths so you can't rule out the drivers.

Hello mmj_uk, oh right, I see. Maybe it could be the drivers then but surely if there was a fundamental problem with the drivers, everyone would be experiencing a similar problem?

I have tried the Catalyst 8.6, 8.7 and 8.8 set of drivers but still no change between either versions.

Have you tried the fan at 100% to rule out overheating?

I still experience the same problem even with the Fan turned up quite high. The temperatures never go beyond around 65 degrees.

This is so annoying.