The Office Support Guy

Kerplunk · 22 Aug 2008 at 14:07

Yea I got one of these here.

He took it in his own hands to go buy a laptop for the company, without going though IT. As he know "more". Oh how I giggled.

He went and bought Vista Home Premium

The MD was not happy at all as he then had to buy an Upgrade lol

Maccy · 22 Aug 2008 at 14:08

May I ask the OP - what's wrong with Zone Alarm?

Caged · 22 Aug 2008 at 14:08

jonno.co.uk said:
perl isn't a scripting language

Ok this is where I'm going to not bother thinking when I write a reply.

Your original point seemed to be that PHP was installed on more Apache systems than there are IIS servers in total, which is wrong.

Burnsy2023 · 22 Aug 2008 at 14:09

jonno.co.uk said:
perl isn't a scripting language

No, but it can be run in the same way as PHP on Apache: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod_perl

Burnsy

lookitsjonno · 22 Aug 2008 at 14:10

Caged said:
Ok this is where I'm going to not bother thinking when I write a reply.

i'd say that a high percentage of servers running apache are running php personally.

perl isn't really used that much for web scripting nowadays.

Tefal · 22 Aug 2008 at 14:10

where did Burnsy's

"ruby" post go? O.o

LiE · 22 Aug 2008 at 14:11

Maccy said:
May I ask the OP - what's wrong with Zone Alarm?

It's broken a few of our laptops. Something to do with memory. I also find it's quite slow and uses quite a bit of resources, which is a big deal considering the laptop is under powered.

Caged · 22 Aug 2008 at 14:12

jonno.co.uk said:
i'd say that a high percentage of servers running apache are running php personally.

perl isn't really used that much for web scripting nowadays.

http://www.php.net/usage.php

21 million domains in total.

Compared to

http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html

Apache's 85 million domains, and IIS' 61 million.

Edit: Yes the PHP figures are old but they're the latest ones on the PHP site.

Burnsy2023 · 22 Aug 2008 at 14:13

jonno.co.uk said:
i'd say that a high percentage of servers running apache are running php personally.

perl isn't really used that much for web scripting nowadays.

Quite a few probably are but Perl is widely used for web scripting due to the fact that it is a well developed, full programming language. There are things you can do in Perl that you can't or wouldn't want to do in PHP.

Burnsy

Burnsy2023 · 22 Aug 2008 at 14:14

Tefal said:
where did Burnsy's

"ruby" post go? O.o

Eh?

Ruby is a good idea though, Ruby on Rails has a growing following for online apps.

Burnsy

lookitsjonno · 22 Aug 2008 at 14:17

interesting stats, I would have thought PHP would be more popular than that, perhaps perl is still more popular nowadays for web scripting than I thought it was.

peterattheboro · 22 Aug 2008 at 14:18

Maccy said:
May I ask the OP - what's wrong with Zone Alarm?

It's software.

All offices with a network should be using firewall hardware.

Tefal · 22 Aug 2008 at 14:18

Burnsy2023 said:
Eh?

Ruby is a good idea though, Ruby on Rails has a growing following for online apps.

Burnsy

Right after the guy posted peral, someone (i think you) posted ruby

Then it dissapared a bit later :/

I thoguht it was a joke, I didn;t even know ruby was a language

Caged · 22 Aug 2008 at 14:19

peterattheboro said:
It's software.

All offices with a network should be using firewall hardware.

I'm guessing it's on the laptops because they're fairly likely to be connected to other networks. Carrying a Netscreen around isn't very practical

Rhys · 22 Aug 2008 at 14:20

@ OP.

You're on a forum for a computer hardware seller and your complaining about a "nerd"?

LiE · 22 Aug 2008 at 14:22

Rhys said:
@ OP.

You're on a forum for a computer hardware seller and your complaining about a "nerd"?

I'm complaining about his biased/unfounded views.

peterattheboro · 22 Aug 2008 at 14:22

Caged said:
I'm guessing it's on the laptops because they're fairly likely to be connected to other networks. Carrying a Netscreen around isn't very practical

True.

But other networks should also have hardware

Unless the main source of work is sat in McDonalds using their Wi-Fi or at home.

LiE · 22 Aug 2008 at 14:25

Our office has a hardware firewall, as do all the sites I work at. Zonealarm has just given me and my colleagues many headaches.

paradigm · 22 Aug 2008 at 14:28

msm722 said:
Our office has a hardware firewall, as do all the sites I work at. Zonealarm has just given me and my colleagues many headaches.

Great. This however doesn't stop INTERNAL attacks by malicious software brought in by uneducated morons (you know, the kind of guys who lable the IT support as fanboys) on their USB sticks because they wanted to show Shirley on the next desk their photos of last weekends binge.

Try understanding the IT support perspective, rather than carrying on whilst being blissfully unaware.

LiE · 22 Aug 2008 at 14:30

paradigm said:
Great. This however doesn't stop INTERNAL attacks by malicious software brought in by uneducated morons (you know, the kind of guys who lable the IT support as fanboys) on their USB sticks because they wanted to show Shirley on the next desk their photos of last weekends binge.

I don't get what you're trying to say here? I run ZoneAlarm - albeit a pain - to protect against such software. I'm not saying we shouldn't run av/firewall software on our laptops, I just have problems with ZA.