Vegetarian Pets

I was just pointing out that being able to survive for a short time on something (in this case plant matter) doesn't equate to health or longevity. Just because they 'could' survive on plant matter if desperate, for a short time, it doesn't mean they don't actually require their carnivorous diet when it's available. Dogs are now proven to be nothing more than visually altered Grey wolves, and have as such been reclassified as Canis lupus familiaris.

Previously they were Canis familiaris, and the Grey wolf was Canis lupus lupus. Since the study of mitochondrial DNA has shown (once and for all) that domestic dogs are in fact just modified wolves, they were reclassified. Dogs and wolves are both carnivores by nature, as their dentition and classification shows.
Good knowledge :)
 
In what way? As you know there are people who feed their dogs vegetarian diets and they survive. (probably not very well though).
Well, exactly. Dogs in the wild are not known to eat plant material out of choice, but through hardship.

I would have thought a mixed diet would be far healthier than just one or the other?
Since dogs and cats are carnivores, no.
 
Well, exactly. Dogs in the wild are not known to eat plant material out of choice, but through hardship.

Exactly, just like when you're at one of those parties that only has Stella, you use it to get drunk, but it is not out of choice :p
 
Well, exactly. Dogs in the wild are not known to eat plant material out of choice, but through hardship.

Although I have watched my dog(s) eat excessive amounts of grass so that they could throw up, they don't do it all that often but it suggests that there is a place in their diet for some vegetation much as we would self-medicate for health conditions.
 
Although I have watched my dog(s) eat excessive amounts of grass so that they could throw up, they don't do it all that often but it suggests that there is a place in their diet for some vegetation much as we would self-medicate for health conditions.

Dogs can eat grass and twigs and stuff when there's fibre missing from their diet.
 
Although I have watched my dog(s) eat excessive amounts of grass so that they could throw up, they don't do it all that often but it suggests that there is a place in their diet for some vegetation much as we would self-medicate for health conditions.
This actually raises an amusing point that has always bothered me as a child :)

Dogs eat grass and are, typically, sick.

So, do Dogs -

A) Eat grass to make themselves sick

B) Eat grass because they are ******* stupid.


I can only hope its A :p
 
Although I have watched my dog(s) eat excessive amounts of grass so that they could throw up, they don't do it all that often but it suggests that there is a place in their diet for some vegetation much as we would self-medicate for health conditions.

Dogs eat grass to throw up! Grass is a useless plant unless you have been designed to digest it. Cows have 6 stomaches for this.
 
This actually raises an amusing point that has always bothered me as a child :)

Dogs eat grass and are, typically, sick.

So, do Dogs -

A) Eat grass to make themselves sick

B) Eat grass because they are ******* stupid.


I can only hope its A :p


Its anser A.

Dogs do it to induce vomiting if they don't feel well or believe they have eaten something they should not.

Its a behaviour designed to reject possible contaminated foods
 
Dogs can eat grass and twigs and stuff when there's fibre missing from their diet.

That might be right but I've only ever witnessed my dogs eating grass to throw up.

This actually raises an amusing point that has always bothered me as a child :)

Dogs eat grass and are, typically, sick.

So, do Dogs -

A) Eat grass to make themselves sick

B) Eat grass because they are ******* stupid.


I can only hope its A :p

It is A) as far as I'm aware, I'm not denying that dogs can be unspeakably dumb but in this case they seem to be doing it for a reason. :p

Dogs eat grass to throw up! Grass is a useless plant unless you have been designed to digest it. Cows have 6 stomaches for this.

Cheers, I thought I'd said that more or less but maybe not.
 
Indeed. Dogs and cats don't need both, that's a motto for human health not carnivore health. 'Variety' for carnivores means a mixture of prey animals and different meats. My dogs get a rabbit one day, hare the next, some pigeon, chicken, lamb, beef, pork - always on whole pieces of raw meaty bone (eg rib racks, legs, necks, whole animals).

Surely anyone who has had a dog steal veggies from the bin has seen what comes out the other end? It's generally in one piece, the same as it went in (a bit like our sweetcorn :D). Talking of the other end, a dog or cat fed an appropriate diet won't have masses of brown steaming slop. Rather, they should be excreting small dryish pellets of powdered bone, which turns white in the sun. Again, the old "what ever happened to white dog poo?". People stopped feeding their dog proper food, and the poo turned to...um... ;)
 
Hahahaha, oh my god. You can't be serious? You really are incredibly ignorant.

No matter how much you try and spin it, humans keep pets for their own entertainment.

The hypocrisy of pet owners who claim to be non-omnivorous because they wuv the widdle animals is at best laughable.

It's bad enough when they keep herbivorous animals but keeping omnivorous or carnivorous pets and then killing other animals to feed those pets...Are you trying to say that there is zero hypocrisy there?

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No matter how much you try and spin it, humans keep pets for their own entertainment.

The hypocrisy of pet owners who claim to be non-omnivorous because they wuv the widdle animals is at best laughable.

Where is the similarity between killing animals and keeping them as pets?
 
Where is the similarity between killing animals and keeping them as pets?

Every non-omnivore that I know claims that it 'isn't natural' to raise animals for food. When I point to their pets and say it 'isn't natural' to enslave them for nothing more than entertainment, they get all flustered.

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No matter how much you try and spin it, humans keep pets for their own entertainment.

I was never arguing against that, but to say that's the only reason is wrong. It's also about giving them a home and a good life, caring for them, giving love and getting love back.

It's bad enough when they keep herbivorous animals

What's the problem with that then?

but keeping omnivorous or carnivorous pets and then killing other animals to feed those pets...Are you trying to say that there is zero hypocrisy there?

Well I can't really comment on this properly, firstly because I'm not sure if it's necessary for certain animals to have meat..etc in their diet to be healthy...etc, unlike humans.

Also I'm not sure but aren't the animal components used in most/all pet food...etc just byproducts/waste from the process of farming meat for human consumption?
 
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Every non-omnivore that I know claims that it 'isn't natural' to raise animals for food. When I point to their pets and say it 'isn't natural' to enslave them for nothing more than entertainment, they get all flustered.

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So what you actually mean is the few vegetarians you know are hypocritical. Not exactly representative is it?
 
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