Exactly. I'm vegetarian and I wouldn't think of disallowing my cat from eating meat.
Ridiculous.
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Exactly. I'm vegetarian and I wouldn't think of disallowing my cat from eating meat.
Ridiculous.
If it could be proven that a vegetarian diet was BETTER for a cat, then yes, fair enough. At the moment I believe that they need the meat as their digestive systems are designed for it, so it would actually be cruel.
HOWEVER, with all the increasing cancers, diseases in Cats and Dogs, it does make you wonder exactly what is going into the food.
HOWEVER, with all the increasing cancers, diseases in Cats and Dogs, it does make you wonder exactly what is going into the food.
You can do that to some goats, pigs, cows and chickens. And then when the freezer is empty kill one and get lovely tender steaks for the next 6 months. This is what many people do. And hey, I regularly eat rabbit and horse. Asians happily eat dog and cat. In Switzerland it is perfectly legal to eat your own pet dog, something not so uncommon in the mountains where farmers will eat the odd farm dog they feel they no longer need.
But why do these pets need a home- they only exist because we want them for our entertainment. Thats not an argument.
Similarly with a good-life, they only need a good-life because we bred them them into existence for our own enjoyment.
IF we didn't have pets we would need to home them or give them a good a life....Besides which, it is the farmers responsibility to look after his animals in the best, most caring way possible. Farmers care about their animals, they care a lot. Keeping their animals as happy and stress free and healthy as possible is key to a well functioning farm.
As for love, well, you would need to prove that animals have any concept of love, or indeed any high-level conscious thought or self-awareness. Certainly dogs and cats have no theory of mind , they don't sit awake at night pondering their existence.
This comes from a lover of pets.
Its not the fact that cats need meat, its the fact that plant material is actually bad for them and will make them sick.
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Well, that doesn't come under the definition of a pet in my mind, and that is not how you would treat a pet.
You're right in a sense. That is the reason why 'we' BREED them, for entertainment and money, but that's not the reason we KEEP them as pets. It's different, and penski clearly said and was referring to KEEPING pets.
And what is this 'we'? I have never bred an animal for entertainment or money, and I've never taken ownership of an animal purely for entertainment.
As for the love thing, you're just being pedantic. Depends what you define as love. But regardless, it's pretty obvious animals can like you and enjoy your company.
Tush and fie. Do you seriously think that a hamster, fish or dog...Nevermind a cat...'loves' you?
Anthropormorphic projection fools nobody but yourself. They are animals, plain and simple. A dog may look up to you but that is only as to the dog, you are its pack leader. By convincing yourself that you are giving and receiving 'love' or providing a good home/care for them, you are only using them as an emotional crutch for your own failings.
If you truly believe that your pets stay with you through 'love' and not because you either keep them trapped in a tank, cage, hutch or home, or that you are a reliable source of food, turn them loose. If your pet 'loves' you, they'll stay put, won't they...?
Nothing...As long as you accept that you are enslaving animals to be your playthings.
Yet you have the temerity to accuse me of ignorance?! You are ****ing scum.
Look at their teeth. If they have flat teeth for chewing fibrous plant food and/or prominent front teeth (rodents et cetera) then they are herbivores. If they have incisors, teeth shaped to slice through meat, then they are carnivores. If they have a mixture of the two like we do, then they are omnivores
I don't know. If they are, it only further enforces the Veggie/vegan keeping pets = hyprocrite fact.
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I'll extend it to virtually every vegan/veggie I've met.
And before I get accused of being anti-pet or anything like that. I'm not. Pets are great...Just don't try and kid yourself or others about why you keep them.
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Hoofs, Eyes, Ears, Noses. I would say that doesn't class as meat, since dogs need a certain % per meal of RAW meat content., HUGE amounts of highly toxic to human chemicals, massive amounts of wheat, which is EXTREMELY dangerous, Sugar which is completely wrong, they add this to make the dogs teeth bad, thus you by the .....dentastix! And flavouring.
Do you know the reason why they put on the packets "contains animal derivatives"? Its so they can change what meat is in the pack without changing the labeling.
So one day you think your giving your dog a "beef" meal, when in fact your giving it hedgehog meat with cow hoofs.
Regardless of the argument at hand that was totally out of order.
Wow dude, some of your post was pure horse****, some of it was sensible though.
We are finding more and more out about animal intelligence, every day.
Even Magpies can recognise themselves in a mirror, thats pretty damn cool.
Cats for sure can love their owners.
Biggest load of ******** I've ever read.
You go and watch a gun dog do a days work and tell me he is not enjoying it.
I guess i should put my fish back into the toilet, i must be enslaving them. Moron.
Back? You got your fish out of a toilet? O.o
Hedgehogs?!!
Noooooo I love them. Were you being serious?
I hope somone posts a chicken nuggets video.
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Sigh.
Ok, love thing. See previous post. Depends what you define as love. What is love? Again whatever it's obvious animals can like you and enjoy your company. Of course it can always goes back to something more basic and selfish, it's no different with anything any form of life does in that sense. It's the same with human 'love'.
And again back to the entertainment thing. So lets say, I adopt a dog from a dog santuary. This dog has been abused...etc all its life. I'm doing that for no other reason than for my own entertainment and as my little play thing? Whatever man.
I wasn't referring specifically to the feeding pets meat subject when I called you ignorant, it was in relation to the entertainment thing. But anyway, do YOU know if say, dogs for example, NEED meat...etc in their diet? Just because their teeth are designed to eat meat, doesn't mean they NEED meat to be healthy, doesn't mean there's not something else that could replace that and sustain their health just as effectively. All it means is they evolved to eat meat bececause that's what was around them as a food source at the time, that's what was available and the best way for them to survive at the time and in those circumstances.
Ok, love thing. See previous post. Depends what you define as love. What is love? Again whatever it's obvious animals can like you and enjoy your company. Of course it can always goes back to something more basic and selfish, it's no different with anything any form of life does in that sense. It's the same with human 'love'.
And again back to the entertainment thing. So lets say, I adopt a dog from a dog santuary. This dog has been abused...etc all its life. I'm doing that for no other reason than for my own entertainment and as my little play thing? Whatever man.
I wasn't referring specifically to the feeding pets meat subject when I called you ignorant, it was in relation to the entertainment thing. But anyway, do YOU know if say, dogs for example, NEED meat...etc in their diet? Just because their teeth are designed to eat meat, doesn't mean they NEED meat to be healthy, doesn't mean there's not something else that could replace that and sustain their health just as effectively. All it means is they evolved to eat meat bececause that's what was around them as a food source at the time, that's what was available and the best way for them to survive at the time and in those circumstances.
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Well hedgehog was a little lie, but have you ever wondered what happens to the out of date meat that supermarkets don't sell?
Good old Scamp is munching away on it 10 weeks later.