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Badger2003

Badger2003

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I know this is a real difficult question to answer and there is no way to be accurate, but does anyone have a rough idea how much it would be to install gas central heating in a 4 bed house?

House over 3 floors, average size and has no central heating at all currently.

Just looking for a ball park figure as there will be other things that need doing if we put an offer in for this place.

Thanks

Badger
 
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gas or oil?

How many rooms?

Is it brick or stone built are the partition walls solid or timber are they built over the floor i.e. can you hand get through under floorboards in too the next room?
 
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If it's a complete system, from scratch it'll be a lot, especially over 3 floors. I'd budget at least £4k just to be sure.
 
4K's not bad to be honest.

I was thinking £5K.

Total number of rooms i believe is 9, including downstairs loo, etc. Couple real big rooms that would need a couple rads each.

5K resonable, with a little contingency fund if needed?
 
Badger2003 said:
4K's not bad to be honest.

I was thinking £5K.

Total number of rooms i believe is 9, including downstairs loo, etc. Couple real big rooms that would need a couple rads each.

5K resonable, with a little contingency fund if needed?
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In which case 5k sounds a more reasonable target. With a house that size you'll need a decent boiler, don't accept cheap ****. How many rooms with taps do you have?
 
boiler is about 1000 including flue etc

rads i would ball park at 100quid each

then there is the plumbing materials copper tube is currently hovering at about 1.60 a mt
( It can be had cheaper by searching )

you can also use plastic plumbing which tbh is more expensive but easier to fit

from all the quotes for material I have done the avg for a 9 bedder would be around the 2.5K mark expect to pay double to be fitted ( as I only work in a plubing merchants )so 5K would be about right ( depending on how much plumbers charge in your area )
 
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In which case 5k sounds a more reasonable target. With a house that size you'll need a decent boiler, don't accept cheap ****. How many rooms with taps do you have?
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you should be asking how many valved showers he has don't matter too much about taps

a combi boiler wall mounted will push out about 14Lt/min @ 35deg rise

a decent shower ( valved not electric ) requires about 10lt/min so if you have 2 valved showers in your property used at the same time the system will suffer
 
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Thanks for the help guys.

Just been to view a house on the outskirts of York, bordering on North Yorks Moors.

Really nice stone cottage house - been extended and current owners been doing some work already - e.g bedrooms & kitchen renovated.

Still needs work doing to it as it has no central heating at all and couple of the rooms need totally gutting but it's all part of a potential master plan :)

Thanks again
 
5punk3monk3y said:
you should be asking how many valved showers he has don't matter too much about taps

a combi boiler wall mounted will push out about 14Lt/min @ 35deg rise

a decent shower ( valved not electric ) requires about 10lt/min so if you have 2 valved showers in your property used at the same time the system will suffer
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Chuck open 2 taps at a time and most Combi's under 28-32kw will be giving a trickle out of each tap. If there's more taps there's more chances of more than one being open at any one time. More taps = bigger boiler. If it's big enough to cope with all the taps that could be used then it should be able to cope with the showers as it can be assumed that you won't have all the taps and shower running at the same time.
 
Badger2003 said:
Thanks for the help guys.

Just been to view a house on the outskirts of York, bordering on North Yorks Moors.

Really nice stone cottage house - been extended and current owners been doing some work already - e.g bedrooms & kitchen renovated.

Still needs work doing to it as it has no central heating at all and couple of the rooms need totally gutting but it's all part of a potential master plan :)

Thanks again
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With the market as it is I hope it comes off for you mate
 
Well, one of the reasons why were looking tbh Spunk3monk3y.

Once we have an idea of how much it'll cost to plow into the place, we can put in an offer. I reckon £25K needs putting into the place and with current climate I think we'll make a cheeky low offer (been on market 5 or 6 mths) and owners have found a place already.
 
Cyanide said:
Chuck open 2 taps at a time and most Combi's under 28-32kw will be giving a trickle out of each tap. If there's more taps there's more chances of more than one being open at any one time. More taps = bigger boiler. If it's big enough to cope with all the taps that could be used then it should be able to cope with the showers as it can be assumed that you won't have all the taps and shower running at the same time.
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the largest flow rate on a wall mounted combi is 17Lt/Min ( 20Lt/Min on a floor stander) if you turn on say 4 hot taps in a house with that wall mounted boiler it will suffer + you are more likely to have 2 valved showers on at the same time than all the hot taps open

the other biggie is having a shower whilst the washing machine is on:D

to the OP also get a price on a unvented cylinder system and a price on solar also ( System boilers are cheaper than big wall mounted combi's therefore a System boiler and a Unvented cylinder is around 1400 quid and a large combi boiler is 1200 quid I know which system I would go for in a large property ;) )

If you are planing on staying there permanently I would suggest Solar
 
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to the OP also get a price on a unvented cylinder system and a price on solar also ( System boilers are cheaper than big wall mounted combi's therefore a System boiler and a Unvented cylinder is around 1400 quid and a large combi boiler is 1200 quid I know which system I would go for in a large property ;) )
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More expensive to install due to specialist qualifications and massive discharge runs etc, but definitely worth it.
 
We got central heating in our house at the start of the year. It's 3 floors, pretty much four bedrooms, and it's an old house so the ceilings are pretty high too (though I'm not sure if that'd affect the initial installation cost, probably affact the running costs though). Cost us in the region of £4.5k to have it put in, that includes radiators in pretty much all of the rooms except the basement and the two rooms in the loft. I'd say it shouldn't cost more than 5K, but if you get British Gas in for a quote (which a lot of people do for some reason) don't be surprised if it's getting on for £6k+.

Actually now I think about it I remember we also had to have extra pipes put in underground because our water source was coming from next door and we weren't getting the pressure we needed. That was another grand I think. It's a semi and because it's old it was a wierd setup, so I doubt you'd have to do that.

Energize said:
You could always go geothermal, iirc they pay themselves off after about 3 years.
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Really?! I might have to look into that for the future. Can you have geothermal if you live anywhere in the uk? What I'm getting at is are some places better for geothermal than others?
 
closeratio said:
Really?! I might have to look into that for the future. Can you have geothermal if you live anywhere in the uk? What I'm getting at is are some places better for geothermal than others?
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http://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk.../types_of_renewables/ground_source_heat_pumps

more than 3 years

and you have a cut off on the size or property that it will work in. Also how much land have you got ( size of Garden ) and do you want it Dug up

I would only suggest fitting GSHP's in brand new properties

( they are also useless with radiators underfloor heating only TBH )
 
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