Finally someone has the guts to say 'Fatties, it's your fault!'

AcidHell2 said:
No they don't....

Your think of professionals. Not the people who play 5 aside football, or go mountain biking or play tennis or any other sport. Where most by there mid 20's have had surgery or at least broken bones. With countless other injuries.
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'most casual sports players have had surgery by the time they are 20' lol you seriously are deluded. Have you ever even played a sport? and for the record those peopleyou talk about are not 'sports players', they are just doing exercise.
 
AcidHell2 said:
So you go out to intentionally get diabetes or heart disease?

Until people realise it's an addiction the same way as drugs or alcohol and being treated as such. nothings going to be changed.
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so what do you suggest then? THat everyone sits at home and posts on computer forums like the perfect model of the human body held by yourself
 
Thunderbirdz said:
'most casual sports players have had surgery by the time they are 20' lol you seriously are deluded. Have you ever even played a sport? and for the record those peopleyou talk about are not 'sports players', they are just doing exercise.
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They play sport, hence sport players.

Yes almost all my friends who play either 5 aside or Saturday football have had surgery on there ankles/knees and the rest have sustained injuries that have needed hospital visits. You under estimated it massively.
 
I would say that in actuall fact you are massively overestimating the cost AcidHell2. Of course there is a cost, but in no way do "the majority" have surgery by their mid 20's and obesity will cost the NHS far far more than sports related injuries
 
Again, why does everything have to be about cost.

Fact is being fat or obese is a lifestyle affecting problem that cuases other problems

Sports injurys are for the large part temporary and once healed the person can still have an healthy lifestyle based around a balanced diet or exercise.
 
AcidHell2 said:
They play sport, hence sport players.

Yes almost all my friends who play either 5 aside or Saturday football have had surgery on there ankles/knees and the rest have sustained injuries that have needed hospital visits. You under estimated it massively.
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How did they get those injuries? Was it some fat overweight pile of lard lunging into a tackle and breaking their legs? Players at that level dont get over use injuries even if they have poor technique or dont do any preventative exercises, so how else has it been caused?

For the record I have played/competed in amatuer sport all my life and have and still coach athletes from 12 years old all the way up to 50!
 
AcidHell2 said:
That's my point.
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Thats what I thought you'd say, hence my edit.

Given that most people pay for physio, are you sure they are more of a burden then fat people? Admittedly the less serious people are about sport, the less likely they are to go private.

But as someone who has had a lot of physio and looked into getting some done on the NHS, it is still not cheap.
 
AcidHell2 said:
So you go out to intentionally get diabetes or heart disease?
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Nah, I don't. I'm sure fat people are the same, they don't go out intentionally to things such as heart disease, diabetes, strokes, heart attacks, high blood pressure which could also lead to something like alzheimer’s etc etc ect.

Id rather have a broken ankle than any of that tbh. I find broken bones less serious than the above.
 
In all fairness some people have medical issues that make them big too. eg low cholesterol levels
I remember saying also that genetics can also cause a person to be big too, so if both your parents where big you are quite likely to be also.
 
I'm still laughing at the choice of words for the thread title, I really hope it was intentional.

AcidHell2 said:
People should just stop complaining. Live and let live. Do fat people impact on your life? No, so why do people attack them.
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Well yes actually, fat people can impact on my life through their obesity much like people with bad body odour can or tall people etc. If I'm in a confined space (say an airline seat) then all of those characteristics can negatively impact on my life for the period of travelling. That also doesn't include the illnesses/conditions that can be brought on by being overweight and their impact on family and friends.

However, having said that I don't think that the overweight deserve much of the stigma that is attached to them, I'm merely highlighting ways in which a persons physical characteristics can impact on my life.
 
Like smokers, people who cannot control their diet and are overweight as a result should be denied access to free treatment.
 
platypus said:
Like smokers, people who cannot control their diet and are overweight as a result should be denied access to free treatment.
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As soon as the treatment is actually free you may have a point. However it isn't free. It would be morally wrong to force people to pay for treatment they can then not access.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
The idea is good in concept but this bit worries me:



The traffic light system seems a good idea to me. It shows people exaclty how full of salt, fat and sugar some processed food are. Maybe that'll encourage them to eat fresh stuff more?

Burnsy
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Its crap though, as its only based on that single item and not the daily / weekly diet as a whole. People will ignore bad things when in reality they might not be that bad for the person.
Also, there is a lot of info missing on those labels imo.
 
One thing I notice overweight people do a lot is

"It's half fat so I can eat twice as much"..

no, it doesnt work that way lol.
 
AcidHell2 said:
It's nothing new, it's always been fat peoples faults and only a handful of people have said differently.

Why don't people get annoyed at sports players who more than likely cost the NHS far more money a year than fat people.
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Anything quantitative to back up your rather generalised and (most probably wrong) statement there?
 
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