I don't like teachers

Pottsey said:
Isn't a head teacher another name for headmaster? I don't think it's fair to base opinions on teachers based on headteachers. The jobs have little in common.
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See my post. Headmasters do a fantastic job. it's something that I don't think I could do. The hours for some head masters are unbelivable. Yet they still get stick.
 
Tibbs said:
I hated my last teacher at college. Had my parents in loads saying I wasn't working etc and I knew I was. He was awful, really bad. He ended up getting sacked but he actually made me feel really like dirt. The way he spoke etc.
No-one in the class liked him (thus the reason why chairs were thrown at him).
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Yeah, I remember kicking off at him. He was a dirty, dirty man. Those tiny shorts he wore made us laugh though!
 
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Pottsey said:
Isn't a head teacher another name for headmaster? I don't think it's fair to base opinions on teachers based on headteachers. The jobs have little in common.
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Yes it is, but that makes no difference. Most good headteachers are still teachers, as in they teach classes - so they do actually have a lot in common
 
jojothemonkey69 said " Children dying on a regular basis!!! What planet are you on!!! If a child was terminally ill they would surely not be in school."
A real world, I used to work in a special school like that. You watch them go from nursery to post 16 knowing there was a high chance they would be dead by 18, not all of them depends what they had. Some took pools on who would die next.




jojothemonkey69 said " I don't understand why you're picking bones when you're training to become a teacher. It seems that you're very naive about the actual workload of a teacher. I don't see why you're comparing a teachers job to an Aircraft traffic controller. It's not a competition."
I am not saying its unstressful job. I am trying to point out a lot of teachers make it sound much worse than it is. They make is sound like one of the most stressful jobs out there when it's not. They dont realise how good they have it. Sure headteachers and special school teachers have high stress. Some inner city schools can be bad as well but on the whole teachers don't have it that bad. Its not an easy job but its far from as bad as some make it sound.




jojothemonkey69 said " If you think it's easy and requires no work good luck to you and your shoddy lessons!"
Very mature, shoddy lessons indeed. My results came in and my group had the best IT results in the school, better than expected. I cannot have been that shoddy. Its far from easy, but I would never go around saying its harder then other jobs or super stressful. Being a teacher is hard work but its not harder then many other jobs.
 
I suspect the teacher thought the OP was just a little boy/girl in the corridor and addressed him/her correctly.

I do hate it when posters have a go at teachers, I'd hate to do the job, so they get lots of holidays, big deal, would you like to work with the kids of today who have parents with no parental skills?
 
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MikeTimbers said:
I have children of school age and because the school won't let them have holidays outside the school allocated ones, I'm forced to take them when holidays cost the most , just like everyone else who has children, so excuse me while I cry for the teachers.
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Were you forced to have sex?
 
Pottsey said:
I am not saying its unstressful job. I am trying to point out a lot of teachers make it sound much worse than it is. They make is sound like one of the most stressful jobs out there when it's not. They dont realise how good they have it. Sure headteachers and special school teachers have high stress. Some inner city schools can be bad as well but on the whole teachers don't have it that bad. Its not an easy job but its far from as bad as some make it sound.
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Teachers don't have it easy, not in the slightest - they don't make it sound worse than it is. If you work in a bad school (which a lot of them are nowadays with the scum of the earth going there everyday to be taught) it is absolute hell trying to get 30 scummy little chavs to sit and listen to you for an hour - then do that 4 more times a day. Teachers get ridiculed by kids all day everyday in a lot of cases (ive seen it) because the teachers cant do anything physically back - and if they do, they get fired. Simple as that.

It takes a lot of work and experience to become the type of teacher who has the ability to keep a class of chavs quiet for an hour and get them to work - the years and years leading up to that are very, very difficult for most teachers - don't you wonder why so many drop out in training etc?

Just because you find it easy, doesn't mean everyone else does
 
RoachycaL said"Teachers don't have it easy, not in the slightest -"
I agreed with that, I never meant to sound like they have it easy and anyone can be a teacher. But I still truly think a lot of teachers who haven't worked outside education don't realise how good they have it, and they think there job is harder than it is compared to other jobs.

Being a teacher is challenging but I don't see how it's a high stress job compared to other jobs. I dont find it easy, but I dont think its tons harder then other jobs.
EDIT: I often see teacher do things that in a normal job would get you fired.
 
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Pottsey said:
jojothemonkey69 said " Children dying on a regular basis!!! What planet are you on!!! If a child was terminally ill they would surely not be in school."
A real world, I used to work in a special school like that. You watch them go from nursery to post 16 knowing there was a high chance they would be dead by 18, not all of them depends what they had. Some took pools on who would die next.

jojothemonkey69 said " I don't understand why you're picking bones when you're training to become a teacher. It seems that you're very naive about the actual workload of a teacher. I don't see why you're comparing a teachers job to an Aircraft traffic controller. It's not a competition."
I am not saying its unstressful job. I am trying to point out a lot of teachers make it sound much worse than it is. They make is sound like one of the most stressful jobs out there when it's not. They dont realise how good they have it. Sure headteachers and special school teachers have high stress. Some inner city schools can be bad as well but on the whole teachers don't have it that bad. Its not an easy job but its far from as bad as some make it sound.




jojothemonkey69 said " If you think it's easy and requires no work good luck to you and your shoddy lessons!"
Very mature, shoddy lessons indeed. My results came in and my group had the best IT results in the school, better than expected. I cannot have been that shoddy. Its far from easy, but I would never go around saying its harder then other jobs or super stressful. Being a teacher is hard work but its not harder then many other jobs.
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Did you read the hours I did?
 
big_white_dog84 said:
I think my dislike comes partly from the attitude they seem to develop and partly from jealousy about their cushy working lives.

Does anyone else share similar feelings? Can any teachers tell me why I'm wrong?
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Sorry, but to put it bluntly, you're spouting rubbish.

My wife is a teacher, and she puts in damned long hours - however most of them aren't in school. She gets in at around 7-7:30 every morning and normally leaves at 4 (unless there's a meeting and then it'll be around 5-5:30). Once she's home she either gets on with work, or if it's her night with our nipper she gets him sorted and into bed; either way, she's normally working on school work until well past midnight, then up again at 5:30 to start all over again!

The sheer amount of paperwork, lesson plans, observations, marking, course-work that they have to deal with is astounding - they really do deserve the holidays, doubly so when they have to deal with difficult children. My wife has also been late home many times because a pupil has needed to confide in her - she doesn't begrudge this, that's all part of why she signed up, but it does mean she'll be working even later, or doing more at the weekend to compensate.

She took a few weeks break this summer, but has spent the last 3 working every day to get up to speed with a new curriculum being introduced at her school. She's currently in the other room working as I type this.

As for the "attitude", most of the time you'll be around them when they are in school, and in earshot of students - they have to keep an air of professionality about themselves at all times.

And finally, for the posters mentioning the "admin time all teachers get", well, by law they are only entitled to 2 lessons a week PPA; if by some miracle they have more than that, they'll never get it as the school will use them to cover lessons for absent teachers.
 
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RoachycaL said"Teachers don't have it easy, not in the slightest -"
I agreed with that, I never meant to sound like they have it easy and anyone can be a teacher. But I still truly think a lot of teachers who haven't worked outside education don't realise how good they have it, and they think there job is harder than it is compared to other jobs.

Being a teacher is challenging but I don't see how it's a high stress job compared to other jobs. I dont find it easy, but I dont think its tons harder then other jobs.
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I know quite a few teachers as i have family members in the trade. Several have had jobs outside education and they think teaching is the hardest challenging thing they have ever done, but they also think think its the most rewarding.
I don't believe you are in any type of education other than a part time teaching assistants assistant in a part time reception class. :rolleyes:
 
Pottsey said:
RoachycaL said"Teachers don't have it easy, not in the slightest -"
I agreed with that, I never meant to sound like they have it easy and anyone can be a teacher. But I still truly think a lot of teachers who haven't worked outside education don't realise how good they have it, and they think there job is harder than it is compared to other jobs.

Being a teacher is challenging but I don't see how it's a high stress job compared to other jobs. I dont find it easy, but I dont think its tons harder then other jobs.
EDIT: I often see teacher do things that in a normal job would get you fired.
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I'm very interested to know what jobs you think are harder than a modern day teacher has.
 
havnt really read most of the posts so im probably reiterating whats already (or at least should have) been said.
teacher do not in the slightest have even a moderately cushy job. my mums a teacher and iv invigilated exams in her school and i would sooner work anywhere for 24 hours a day than put up with any of the kids, 99% of children these days are absolute youknowhats and teachers are absolutely powerless to do anything constructive about the troublemaking therefore i imagine it to be one of the most stressful jobs out there. and they dont work 9-3.30. my mum leaves the house at 8am and gets back at 4pm, 5.30pm on mondays when they have meetings. and theres a shedload of work that goes on out of school hours. anyone who thinks high school teachers get even half of the salary they deserve for putting up with those kids is silly. i know i wouldnt do it if they paid me 3x the wage they get.
 
If anyone thinks it is such an easy job, I suggest that they go and try it out!

I'm going into the 3rd year of my BEd degree and I've been out teaching in several schools on placement and it's the kind of job that can be so rewarding yet incredibly dis-heartening at times.

As already has been said, there's so much more to teaching than just in the classroom with pupils. Planning a good lesson along with finding/making resources alone can take several hours and there are up to 10 of these each day! On top of that you have photocopying to do, a plan B for when things (eg technology) go wrong, homeworks/coursework to devise, distribute, collect, mark and return/discuss as well as dealing with the pupils themselves should it be in detention or general comments/follow-ups. Most teachers will tell you that free periods are no longer heard off. These are spent covering other teachers classes because budgets are so tight substitutes aren't brought in everytime someone is absent. Then there's staff meetings, training and parent teacher meetings to attend along with planning school trips etc.

Although the school day may be set from 9am -3.30pm most teachers take their work home with them and spend a considerable amount of time doing it. Any secondary school teacher will spend their Christmas and Easter holidays marking coursework for GCSE/A level as well as all the other entry level exams taken as well as 2nd marking other teachers coursework. Summer holidays are one of the only free holidays that they get and they are set so any other time off through the year is taken as unapaid if they are lucky enough to even get it off! 20-35k a year is hardly enough for the amount of work a teacher undertakes, more duties/responsibilities have to be taken to get paid extra.

EDIT: Also to the OP, you'll probably find most teachers introduce themselves as Mr/Mrs/Miss.... because they get so used to being called that way. It's one of the hardest things I've found when out on placement you get so used (especially infront of the children) to calling yourself Mr... that even in the staff room with other teachers you introduce yourself as that. On my last placement I was crossing the hallway battling my way through the 600 or so pupils going to lunch that it took me a while to recognise my University tutor calling out my first name from behind me! I guess I find this even harder as we addressed our teachers by their first name in the school I attended.
 
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