new to the forums, 1st pc build!

pedro32

pedro32

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hey all, im new to the forums and this is the first pc that i'm choosing to build myself.

these are the parts that i have picked out:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=BU-095-OK

that is the bundle pack for:
q6600
Asus P5N-T Deluxe nForce 780i Motherboard
OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) Reaper 1000MHz RAM
Tuniq Tower 120-LFB CPU Cooler (Socket 478/754/939/940/AM2/LGA775)

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD-074-LG

that is the drive

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-035-GI

planning on getting two of these to work together, 8800 GT's

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...ia X-Plorer Black/Blue Neon Midi Tower No PSU

the pc case

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...io 7.1 Sound Card - OEM (PCI) (30SB079200000)

the sound card (not 2 sure about this)

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-022-AK

and the psu 400W (not 2 sure about this either because i don't have any clue about psu's)

i'll also be sorting out more fans later on if i need any to cool the system for a hopeful overclock if possible..

well that's the build im planning on, if anyone has any advice or tips on how 2 improve this, or any parts that are better to get, i'd really appreciate all the help


cheers
 
everything looks good but the pc case is a nono, i had the apevia x cruiser and it was hardly the best case ever to build in especially if its your first time.

buy this:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...name=Antec Three Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case

and then this:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...X2.2 Modular SLI Compliant PSU (CMPSU-520HXUK)

though i wouldnt go with the sli setup but its personal choice i guess. you could get a different motherboard and a single 4850/70 or something.

EDIT: heres my build in the apevia x cruiser (which uses the same chassis as the one you picked out). antec 300 was so much easier and cooling was better. and there is no reason not to get it.

case1.jpg

case3.jpg
 
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Hi Pedro, welcome to the forums :)

If you have a budget and can tell us what your looking for in your new build, im sure someone will be happy to spec you an alternative system for you to have a think about or be able to help you get the most for your money.

Think your going to need a bigger PSU for a system like this. The corsair ones are generally very nice and you can buy a modular one which will help cable management.

Out of curiosity, why are you planning on using dual 8800's? You can get a 4870 for less, drop the pack, change the mobo to a crossfire one and you'll be able to upgrade it to crossfire at a later date if you wish. In actuality for the price of 2 x 8800's you could buy a 4870X2.

Case looks nice, don't know much about it tbh. People here tend to rave about the Antec 300 as well if your looking to save some pennies might be worth a look.

Q6600 is nice, using one myself OC'd to 3.02 and it runs like a dream, same with the tower heatsink, it's a beauty.
 
well, im new to building a pc so im open to any suggestions that anyone might have to improve the system..

with all of the above parts, it came to around £750, so a budget around that number will be fine..

as for the two 8800 GT's, if anyone has a suggestion that would work better for around the same price, then im open to opinions..

and if possible, could you link me to this motherboard you are talking about with the crossfire?
 
pedro32 said:
what's bad with the sli setup? is it hard to do or it's just a better alternative to get a 1gb graphics card?
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there is nothing wrong with an sli setup. but there are a endless number of compatability programs with games etc which makes pointless unless your running a 2 30inch monitors and most of the time you will use one card anyway because it wont have any effect in game. spending the money on something like this will serve you better: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...5 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) - Retail
 
pedro32 said:
what's bad with the sli setup? is it hard to do or it's just a better alternative to get a 1gb graphics card?
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It's not bad as such and it's not difficult to do but i would say you can get better value for money with a single 4870 and i doubt you'd notice the difference in performance.

I run a single GTX 280 and i doubt there is significant difference between this and a 4870 in terms of performance. For me it was a personal choice and at the end of the day if you decide you want to build an SLI rig with 2 x 8800's, then go for it, im sure it'll slaughter anything you can throw at it :)
 
Old.Tallen said:
It's not bad as such and it's not difficult to do but i would say you can get better value for money with a single 4870 and i doubt you'd notice the difference in performance.

I run a single GTX 280 and i doubt there is significant difference between this and a 4870 in terms of performance. For me it was a personal choice and at the end of the day if you decide you want to build an SLI rig with 2 x 8800's, then go for it, im sure it'll slaughter anything you can throw at it :)
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i can see what you and blackhawk are talking about, but would 2 8800GT's working in a SLI rig be more future proof than using a single 4870?

whilst i want to build a pc that is good for gaming, i'd also like it to be future proof for a couple of years aswell
 
pedro32 said:
i can see what you and blackhawk are talking about, but would 2 8800GT's working in a SLI rig be more future proof than using a single 4870?

whilst i want to build a pc that is good for gaming, i'd also like it to be future proof for a couple of years aswell
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well if you went for the single card you could probably use the remainder funds on a more future proof mobo but i honestly dont see much of a future for either sli or crossfire. if you went with the sli 8800gt, then you would probably be kicking yourself in a year or two time when games start to be more demanding.
 
well, the 4870 looks to be the same price as two 8800 GT's, but what sort of motherboard do you think would be a better suit? i thought the motherboard i picked out would have been good but any other suggestions are good :)
 
well im not really "with it" at the moment when considering these newish mobos.

something like this i would say is pretty good:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...P45 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard

the motherboard you picked is not bad, but i have heard that people have issues regarding the nvidia chipset etc all the time-and i cant see it being worth the hassle imo. the cpu you picked out is pretty decent but you could also go for one of the wolfdale processors.
 
thanks for the help, im going to look into it a bit more before i decide what i'm going to go for...

on a side note, how hard is it to fit the pc together, is this not a job for someone who isn't that great with computers? or is it actually just plug and load the drivers then you're good to go?
 
The mobo blackhawk suggested is pretty good, or this one which is slightly better

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1155&name=Asus P5Q-E Intel P45 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard

still a lot cheaper than your original so saves a few pennies.

As for GPU's, i've had a quick looky on the net and there are no direct reviews between 2 x 8800gt sli v 4870 (single card) but every one reckons it is pretty close. Therefore I would draw the conclusion that a single 4870 would be slightly better as you could then add another 4870 in crossfire at a later date and thus keep it fairly futureproof for a while. That and a single 4870 is 30quid cheaper than 2 x 8800gt's.

Or if you really want to spend som cash you could get a 4870 X2 which is basically 2 4870's ont he same board and you'd wipe the floor. Especially if you eventually brough 2 x 4870 X2 which would be the equivilant of 4 GPU's :) :) :)
 
Edward01 said:
The mobo blackhawk suggested is pretty good, or this one which is slightly better

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1155&name=Asus P5Q-E Intel P45 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard

still a lot cheaper than your original so saves a few pennies.

As for GPU's, i've had a quick looky on the net and there are no direct reviews between 2 x 8800gt sli v 4870 (single card) but every one reckons it is pretty close. Therefore I would draw the conclusion that a single 4870 would be slightly better as you could then add another 4870 in crossfire at a later date and thus keep it fairly futureproof for a while. That and a single 4870 is 30quid cheaper than 2 x 8800gt's.

Or if you really want to spend som cash you could get a 4870 X2 which is basically 2 4870's ont he same board and you'd wipe the floor. Especially if you eventually brough 2 x 4870 X2 which would be the equivilant of 4 GPU's :) :) :)
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so will the 4870 gpu work with that motherboard you have recommended? and will all of my other components work with that motherboard?
 
the cpu and gpu work well with that mobo.
I presume that ram is DDR2 not DDR3? You need DDR2 with that mobo
and you'll need a bigger than 400w PSU, the corsair one Blackhawk suggest should be fine
 
Edward01 said:
the cpu and gpu work well with that mobo.
I presume that ram is DDR2 not DDR3? You need DDR2 with that mobo
and you'll need a bigger than 400w PSU, the corsair one Blackhawk suggest should be fine
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yeh, the ram is ddr2 mainly because of how much cheaper it is than ddr3

and i will be upgrading the psu aswell


cheers for all the help everyone
 
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