Asus P5N-T Worst MB ever ?

Big.Wayne said:
Guys,

There's no real way for me to say this without causing offence (sorry in advance) but it may well be the case you do not have the required skill, patience and trouble-shooting nous to be a competent system builder :(

Ranting about hardware is nothing more than a self-serving bias, in short that means it is easier for you to blame your apparent Epic failure to build a stable system on the hardware than to admit to yourself your just not cut out for this technical malarky! :o

For starters, anyone who buys an nVidia chipset to run an INTEL based system has clearly done no research into the subject before purchasing said hardware. It's been well documented there are several teething problems with these boards yet a few end users have managed to overcome the odds and build great systems although I'm sure they were either lucky or perhaps possessed the *right stuff* to see them through technical difficulties.

Lastly if you cannot build a stable system using an ASUS/INTEL combo then I would seriously consider finding a new hobby or perhaps paying a system builder to spec n craft an uBer box for you, sounds like going this route would save you all a load of grief and if your prone to destroying hardware in a fit of frustration it may actually work out cheaper in the long run to let someone else do the hard part for you.
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m8 if you had good Intel Asus boards then good for you. I have had 4 Premium or Deluxe in the past 3 years and all have issues which have put me off them for life!! (and I have been building/configuring PC's since the 286 days). Problems I had ranged from:

Dodgy onboard wifi adapters.

Poor board layout and quirky USB ports which you can only plug certain devices into.

Poor SATA layout & lack of certain brand Optical SATA drive support.

Cold reset bug when overclocking (yeah I know this is a deliberate design but other makes do not have it on the same chipset).

Poor bios options & buggy bioses. Why do you think they have so many bioses for their mobos!

IRQ sharing & port conflicts with certain USB devices.

They are also overpriced and the driver & bios support is appalling. If you can even download something that is as most of the time the speeds are dialup if that. Also their tech support forums are very slow and they do not even have a visible presence there leaving it to the users to help each other.

I know exactly how the OP feels in breaking his mobo as I wanted to do this on at least 3 mobos but commonsense meant I sold them on instead.
 
RoachycaL said:
Duuuude what a waste! I've been looking for a new motherboard for ages and I'm really hard up on cash - I also don't overclock any of my components and I would have graciously taken that off you're hands even for a price :(
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You wouldn't have thanked him in the long run.
 
AWPC said:
I have been building/configuring PC's since the 286 days
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Wow your the first old-school system builder I heard from that doesn't like ASUS/INTEL boards? :confused:

I can't say I've encountered any of the problems you've described, some of them are like the smallest/trivial issues I heard someone complain about though? i.e poor SATA placement and slow downloading times from their website! :p

I've not had a problem with ASUS BIOS's before? and I think most boards undergo several BIOS revisions no matter what brand right? I guess this is because they cannot test every possible hardware configuration before the board is released so it's kinda in a BETA stage for the first month or so and as user reports come in the BIOS engineers get on the case and fix any unseen issues, I think they are very proactive in this respect.

Your entitled to your opinion and all I am doing is countering what you have said with my positive experiences, it may make all the difference to a potential purchaser reading these forums looking for information on what product to buy, you had your say, I had my say, that's it really!

Asus=Epic fail :mad: - AWPC

Asus/Intel=WIN! :cool: - Big.Wayne
 
PCZ said:
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The only way to fix motherboards using nvidia chipsets. My 780i drove me to despair.
 
The problem is tho if you want SLI then nvidia is the only way to go.

My next board however will be a crosfire enabled board :)

I quite prefer asus boards and ive had several, none of which have ever given me any problems.

Off the top of my head ive had :

A7N8-X Deluxe - socket A
A8V Deluxe - S939
A8N-SLI Pemium - S939 - an excellent board IMO
M2N Deluxe - AM2
P5GC-MX - S775
P5N-E SLI - S775
P5KC - S775
P5N-T Deluxe - S775

Never had any problems especially with my current board.
 
Used the following Asus motherboards with no problems whatsoever.

(1998) Asus P2BF - S1 (Pentium II Motherboard)
(2004) A8V Deluxe Rev 1 - S939
(2004) A8V Deluxe Rev 2 - S939
(2005) A8N-SLI Premium - S939 - Still in use today.
(2007) P5N-E SLI - S775

I wouldn’t say sata port location/angle is a big deal (people too fussy) & a lot of motherboard manufacturers release revision of motherboards, if it's something worth switching for then I would just sell the old motherboard & buy the later revision.

Asus Criticism

1) Only a couple of reasons I will not buy an Asus motherboard at the current time is because of very poor RMA service i.e. 6 - 8 weeks, to me this is unacceptable considering the size of Asus as a company with over 8,000 employee's & taking into consideration that http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/ will even tell you that 14-28 days is a reasonable enough time to sort it, Asus are breaking UK consumer laws.

Taking this into consideration, the only two motherboards I've ever had to RMA were Abit motherboards, but at the time I received replacements within 4 working days - see here. (Abit RMA moved to Holland now) :(

2) I'm also not keen on Asus using soldered on bios chips, this means you still have to RMA your motherboard instead of just replacing the chip from a 3rd party source in the event of a bad bios flash.

If you look here you will see just one of many horror stories of Asus taking upto 5 months to sort out RMA's on Notebooks/Laptops. :(

Note: P5Q Deluxe does come with two non-soldered bios chips, one as backup - good move by Asus. (Not sure about other models)
 
Wayne: I may not be into overclocking in a big way but ive been building my own and other peoples pc's for 10 years, im quite capable of getting a pc to work if the parts work.
 
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LOL at the snapping.

I must be mad I have just bought Meatloaf's 780i and will attempt to clock a 45nm Quad in it! :p

Will post results when I have them.

Its about time one of these was is the hands of someone who knows what they are doing....:D;):p
 
easyrider said:
LOL at the snapping.

I must be mad I have just bought Meatloaf's 780i and will attempt to clock a 45nm Quad in it! :p

Will post results when I have them.

Its about time one of these was is the hands of someone who knows what they are doing....:D;):p
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:D

It's not as bad as the Striker 2 Formula, but I hope for your sake that Asus has made some improvements since BIOS 1001.....

If they haven't....and you insist on a 45nm quad...then....

Forget low latency memory, I tried 4 sticks of this (supported on the QVL), couldn't even get it stable at stock - was fine in another board.

Forget super-high bandwidth RAM (1066mhz+), especially 4x1GBs or 2x2GBs...it really is hopeless....no really...it is!

Forget any RAM using Micron D9s that requires 2.2v or greater...it will die...over several months.

Forget setting the multiplier to x9 or lower.

Forget setting the FSB to 1333mhz or higher.

Forget fitting 2 video cards...you'll get tired of having to remove the lower one every time you're forced to pull the battery due to a failed overclock.

Forget using it as a paper-weight....unless you wish to incinerate data sensitive material.:)

Best of luck.:D
 
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i snapped my p5wdh in half as well. usless bloody board it was. before id had enough of it, it started falling apart. 2 of the sata ports fell off the board :/

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whoops:)
 
(2005) A8N-SLI Premium - S939 - good mobo but broke it accidently.
(2007) P5N-E SLI - S775 - A mobo that would make a nun swear her head off but i love mine, took me a while and a few mods but i got it fast and stable in the end, still going strong.
 
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