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Using real history would help.
I don't think using Braveheart in an arguement for independance was a serious comment. I suggest you find some salt
Burnsy
Give Scotland Independance
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I don't think using Braveheart in an arguement for independance was a serious comment. I suggest you find some salt
Burnsy
We get enough medals proportionate to the size of the country. Besides, some people from the UK join the Irish team and vice versa already.
Yeah which would have not been possible without the telephone to start with
Actually, no. A Scot patented it, but didn't invent it.
HTH.
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Why do we have to be English or Scottish? What's wrong with British?
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Haggis.
thats a hat trick on its own
thats a hat trick on its own
Can I give you my theory on how I think the English really screwed up by not letting Scotland have the oil and independence ?......
It's quite simple. Any country is influenced and affected by it's neighbour. Most countries have a joined on neighbour, but England doesnt. A close example would be Northern Ireland which has Eire as a neighbour. What happens is the people who live in each country take advantage of the differences. they cross over to buy cheaper stuff and stay put for things that are better at home.
It basically creates competition between two systems. Without competition nothing much happens.
If Scotland had been allowed to function separately things here would be very different. For example the cost of Petrol / Diesel would be a lot less because we would have so much money from oil we wouldn't need to raise taxes on our people for public services. Taxes in general would be less.
This would have put pressure on English governments to keep up. They simply couldnt let taxes rise so much when there people could simply drive over the border and get things a lot cheaper.
I dont want to bore you with all the other great things and benifits the English would now be enjoying if they had ket the Scots take the steering wheel.
It's happening already even though Scotland only has devolution. Out first minister decided after a visit to Dublin that he liked the concept of no smoking in pubs. So he pushed for its introduction. We are getting the full verion in March. England plays catch up with the lite version. Same with care of the Elderly, we even have some pensioners that have moved up here for the improved services they get... so on and so on.
The whole of the UK would have benifited by having 2 separate systems coming up with different ideas and then taking the best of the two.
It's quite simple. Any country is influenced and affected by it's neighbour. Most countries have a joined on neighbour, but England doesnt. A close example would be Northern Ireland which has Eire as a neighbour. What happens is the people who live in each country take advantage of the differences. they cross over to buy cheaper stuff and stay put for things that are better at home.
It basically creates competition between two systems. Without competition nothing much happens.
If Scotland had been allowed to function separately things here would be very different. For example the cost of Petrol / Diesel would be a lot less because we would have so much money from oil we wouldn't need to raise taxes on our people for public services. Taxes in general would be less.
This would have put pressure on English governments to keep up. They simply couldnt let taxes rise so much when there people could simply drive over the border and get things a lot cheaper.
I dont want to bore you with all the other great things and benifits the English would now be enjoying if they had ket the Scots take the steering wheel.
It's happening already even though Scotland only has devolution. Out first minister decided after a visit to Dublin that he liked the concept of no smoking in pubs. So he pushed for its introduction. We are getting the full verion in March. England plays catch up with the lite version. Same with care of the Elderly, we even have some pensioners that have moved up here for the improved services they get... so on and so on.
The whole of the UK would have benifited by having 2 separate systems coming up with different ideas and then taking the best of the two.
1)I'm not English
2)That's how you're portrayed in the media so it's actually how everyone outside the UK sees you, not the people that actually know (well aside from the racist, violent, drunk part thats true)
to be fair i wasn't poking fun at ireland. just because one bloke one three medals doesnt mean we should split.
im on the isle of man home of the oldest goverment in the world uk goverment doesnt affect us 
however id hope scotland stayed with the english goverment as they will be up the creek without it how would they pay all that extra money to the alcoholics?
however id hope scotland stayed with the english goverment as they will be up the creek without it how would they pay all that extra money to the alcoholics?
Bitter much?
Vacuum cleaner,fire extinguisher, seat belts, the jet engine... oh and let us not forget that an Englishman (Sir Tim Berners-Lee) created the very thing you're using to post this on... The world wide web
I raise you... James Clerk Maxwell, voted the 2nd most influencial scientist of all time, behind eistein but ahead of Newton.
The bicycle, Andrew Carnegie, John clerk (His naval tactics saw the turnaround of the Royal Navy into the best in the world, nelson used his tactics at trafalgar), Jon napier and john scott russell whos research came the basis for fibre optics. The steam engine that kicked off the industrial revolution, RADAR which nearly single handedly saved Britains ass against invasion and pneumatic tyres and tarmac roads. Theres also some writers like burns and sir walter scott.
Oh and of course the lee enfield rifle! Oh yea!
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1)I'm not English
2)That's how you're portrayed in the media so it's actually how everyone outside the UK sees you, not the people that actually know (well aside from the racist, violent, drunk part thats true)
When ever I have been in another country I am not looked upon as a drunken scot who eats haggis and wears a kilt. Maybe you do as I say but we are not all gullible enough to believe what’s written in the media.
What's wrong with European and using the Euro then?
I'm Welsh first and British second... but to be honest I like to keep a "George Carlin" look on patriotism.
"Proud to be American... Proud to be Irish... Pride should be reserved for something you've achieved or attain on your own. Not something that happens by accident at Birth.
Being Irish isn't a skill, it's a genetic accident. You say I'm proud to be 5'11, I'm proud to have a predeposition towards colon cancer... why would you be Proud to be Irish... Don't be proud to be an American, be happy to be an American"
And all English don't have big egos also.
But you are gullible enough to believe that all English are 'hooligans and big headed arrogant *******.' Oh the irony, what planet do you come from?
what
England also beats Wales 3-2...
England - ninjas and lasers and dold
Wales - sheep and dirt