Xbox 360 defects: an inside history of Microsoft’s video game console woes

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Alright, taking Soulja's console aside

I bought 6 360's

1 died of GPU failure (Launch Console)
1 got sold

4 are in my room all working fine.

not a single RROD
 
I have had 3 failures :),

1st one lasted over a year
2/3 lasted a month at best (refurbs from ms)
4th still going strong!:) (non hdmi model)

I might get another 360 as my 4th was sold as soon as it returned from MS but i shall wait for the next revision i think.
 
I'm pretty sure time has an effect, considering it's heat warping the motherboard is it not?

So, the more it's on, the more it will be affected.

Yep it must do, plenty of people on here had an original for 2 years only for it to die. After having one of my consoles 5 times I tried making sure I turn the 360 on for 5 minutes before I use it and leave it running for 10 minutes after I finish gaming to let the fans cool it down. After doing this my 360 then almost lasted a year before it died again.

Everyone I know has had to replace it atleast once, most twice but not many as often as I have. I have two my other one that gets used once a month is still an orignal.

Having two was a requirement for me because the damn thing kept braking when I needed it most.

Anyway don't know why we are even discussing it, its a fact that the 360 is unreliable.
 
With 3RROD the X-clamp cant retain enough pressure to keep the GPU connected to the motherboard so the solider joints break. Pressue is lost as there is actually a gap between the motherboard and the case + the metal is of such thin/low quality that there is space in which the GPU can be disconnected through heat warping.

The issue comes from the X-Clamp not maintaining a constant even pressure across the chip when heat cycling, not that there isn't proper contact between the GPU and heatsink.
 
The issue comes from the X-Clamp not maintaining a constant even pressure across the chip when heat cycling, not that there isn't proper contact between the GPU and heatsink.

I thought the gap between the motherboard + the thin metal of the case and clamp meant that movement was allowed mainly due to heat which caused the x-clamp to lose pressure and actually break solder joints on the GPU. Thats how I pressumed the towel trick worked as the joints were just being temporarily resoldered and 3RROD wasnt actually a heat issue as such more physical.
 
It is a physical issue but it's the heat cycling that changes the tension on the X-clamp and breaks the solder joints. It's not anything to do with gaps as far as I know and it's due to unever pressure during heat cycling rather than the lack of pressure.

Doesn't matter either way though as it's a terrible design flaw that is easily rectified, but that would mean admitting more fault than MS already have.
 
Its nothing short of media hype, MS are in for the long run, ok they have had a massive loss with the 360 but the games they are pumping out is superb, there is no way the next MS console can be as bad as the launch of the xbox was and the hardware failure as the 360, third time lucky :p

You have to spend money to make money, its no different than Sony Corp being in massive debt but nobody brings that up when they go on about the PS3, let the games do the talking....simple as.
 
Its nothing short of media hype, MS are in for the long run, ok they have had a massive loss with the 360 but the games they are pumping out is superb, there is no way the next MS console can be as bad as the launch of the xbox was and the hardware failure as the 360, third time lucky :p

You have to spend money to make money, its no different than Sony Corp being in massive debt but nobody brings that up when they go on about the PS3, let the games do the talking....simple as.

yes they do:confused: its quite a major talking point. everybody knows that the ps3's are expensive to prroduce and sony are still making a loss.

lets not turn this in to another console war though?
 
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yes they do:confused: its quite a major talking point. everybody knows that the ps3's are expensive to prroduce and sony are still making a loss.

lets not turn this in to another console war though?

No they don't, they say Sony made a 3 billion loss on the PS3 they dont say Sony are in massive debt, Microsoft are hugely wealthy in terms income where as Sony are making a loss in every area.

You are twisting my words and trying to derail this into a console war.
 
Very interesting read, how the corp world works:)

I've had two fail, however it got me thinking the first one was fine until I moved into my new place and it was moved from sitting on its end to laying flat and lasted a few months, the next one one was 13months, does this make any difference? on its end it feels warm rather than hot,

When I asked MS said if you can put it on its end,

Also the repaired one is a month old it sounds like there is a chance the fault still is not fixed and could go again,
 
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