Subaru seperation

Ah yes, that.

Being billed all over the news as a casualty of the weather - something I'm sure anyone familiar with that road will raise their eyebrows over.

It's the main dual carriageway into and out of Plymouth city centre. It used to be a 70, then a 60, then a 50 and most recently a 40 - every year somebody drives down it in the middle of the night at an absolutely ridiculous speed and then crashes, usually taking out a petrol station or a few street lights and normally themselves as well.

The council respond by saying how much speed kills and lowering the speed limit - again - because of course if you do 120 in a 50 you'd do 40 if it was a 40.

Obviously its unfair to speculate on what happened but does that really look like the mess you get when you hit standing water at 40mph?

Or does it look like what you might expect if some chap who thinks he's invincible in the wet because he has a 4WD Impreza Turbo goes bombing down the dual carriageway at... well, you make your mind up what speed. The road in question will have been virtually deserted at 2.45am and the area by the allotments is pretty straight.

I'll be more than a little miffed if we get ANOTHER limit reduction after this. That road is already tediously slow as Dolph will agree.
 
[TW]Fox;12459092 said:
Obviously its unfair to speculate on what happened but does that really look like the mess you get when you hit standing water at 40mph?

Looks just a tad more than 40.

If the weather is that bad you simply slow down, I recently and all the cars on a 60 road had to slow down to about 20-30 on a 60 as the rain was so hard we couldnt see.
 
Damn :eek:

Clearly doing ridiculous speeds for the conditions.

Trees are nasty, nasty things to hit :(
 
love how utterly bereft the article discussion is of whether the driver was driving like a tool

guess nobody wants to be seen to be speaking ill of the dead in an article that the lads parents might read (myself included)
 
love how utterly bereft the article discussion is of whether the driver was driving like a tool

It wasn't I dont think, there are loads of references to people daring to suggest the driver was anything other than a model citizen so I suspect they've been removed.
 
Wow, that's a nasty looking crash. I don't know much about the appearance of cars after crashes but I'd be stunned if that was doing anywhere near as low as 40mph when it got into trouble.
 
Looks just a tad more than 40.

If the weather is that bad you simply slow down, I recently and all the cars on a 60 road had to slow down to about 20-30 on a 60 as the rain was so hard we couldnt see.

I've been on the M20 in a mental torrential downpour and must have dropped to about 15-20mph along with everyone else... fogs on and you still couldn't see anything in front including road markings :eek: Maybe the 4WD aspect made the poor guy a bit over-confident as has been said above.
 
I'm sorry I do feel very sorry for the families but cars do not disintegrate like that at 40mph (i realise the car will have been cut to release the victim). It would take a most unusual set of circumstances to crash like that at 40mph even if there was oil on the road and the car had bald tyres. I don't buy it. Terrible waste of life nonetheless.
 
mustve been red-lining it for that to happen!

lol, ok.

Saw this posted over on Rovertech and my first comment was "that wasn't a 40mph impact".

Very sad to see and an eye opener to anyone who likes getting their foot down I'm sure, but this could have been avoided had the driver used a bit of common sense.
 
[TW]Fox;12459241 said:
Some great comments..
Yes, or people could.. not drive into them.

I know what you mean with this, the guy was obviously going fairly quick in this situation, however, there is a stretch of road in county Durham (A167 for those in the know, between Framwellgate and Spennymoor) where there have been a steady stream of accidents/deaths for years now. The road is prone to collecting standing water, the carriageways are separated by a line of trees, and what do you know, people hit the trees all the time. Surely it would be better to remove the trees and install a barrier as per many central reservations? I'm willing to bet that with a proper barrier there accidents would be much less severe, as has been pointed out already, trees don't move.
 
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