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[TW]Fox;12460842 said:
We have a post your Clio 172 thread, an MX5 register, an Integra thread and a pimp your 200SX thread as well I think. The 'Post your BMW' thread was posted about a year ago when easyrider was going through his 'I am amazing' phase.
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Did he ever emerge though?
 
If we all bought Golf Bluemotions we wouldn't have this problem... and we all know its the car of the future.... [/stops now]

On a more serious note, good call Scuzi.
 
Gaijin said:
I'm not condoning the stupid comments at all, but simply put, Fox and other people do bring this treatment on themselves.

The fact of the matter is, Fox for instance, can be very direct and post very inflammatory remarks sometimes, which people are unfortunately, going to play up to.

Not saying its ok for people to retort in the manner that they do, but are you really surprised that they do? I'm certainly not.

In my opinion, to an extent its cause and effect. Its all very well banning comments like these, but how about looking at the big picture?

No problem with the BMW/Mondy recommendations as for the large part, they are pretty decent cars for the money.

But when threads start appearing like the "Post your BMW in here thread", it hardly helps the situation. Imagine if every marque had its own picture thread, would that be acceptable?
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I aggree with the above. But at the end of the day, Rules are rules and this place isnt the only forum on the interweb. If people don't like it or can't handle the rules, they can go elsewhere.:)
 
Gaijin said:
I'm not condoning the stupid comments at all, but simply put, Fox and other people do bring this treatment on themselves.

The fact of the matter is, Fox for instance, can be very direct and post very inflammatory remarks sometimes, which people are unfortunately, going to play up to.

Not saying its ok for people to retort in the manner that they do, but are you really surprised that they do? I'm certainly not.

In my opinion, to an extent its cause and effect. Its all very well banning comments like these, but how about looking at the big picture?

No problem with the BMW/Mondy recommendations as for the large part, they are pretty decent cars for the money.

But when threads start appearing like the "Post your BMW in here thread", it hardly helps the situation. Imagine if every marque had its own picture thread, would that be acceptable?
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Problem being is people would rather just post something like "..oh, they might as well get a BMW /Mondeo cos that's what everyone always says..." rather than thinking about it and then because their brain is obviously too small, they can't take a bat down and have to post personal attacks.
 
Scuzi said:
Over the past few months, an increasing number of threads in the Motors forum are being derailed with silly and ridiculous comments.
The most prevalent would appear to be from those claiming that only Mondeos and BMWs are welcome on here. At first, such comments may have raised a chuckle, soon after they became tedious and now they are becoming a real problem.

If you have nothing positive to contribute to a thread, hit the back button.

From now, all ridiculous and inflammatory comments will be removed. A warning will be given to the poster. Any further posting of such material will result in a suspension. The Motors Dons will welcome RTMs on these sort of posts too.


I don't want to come across all Nazi like but this behaviour needs to be nipped in the bud before it ruins the Motors section. I expect most of you feel the same.

Thank you :)
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Nazi tbfh :rolleyes:
 
peterattheboro said:
So can we not recommend Mondeos and BMWs then considering they are the most fantastically amazing cars ever then?

What if they fit the OPs criteria? :eek:
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To be honest it's more hassle than its worth recommending a Mondeo to somebody who says 'I have £3k to spend on a spacious, reliable family sized car thats cheap to run' these days.
 
Kitchster_uk said:
Problem being is people would rather just post something like "..oh, they might as well get a BMW /Mondeo cos that's what everyone always says..." rather than thinking about it and then because their brain is obviously too small, they can't take a bat down and have to post personal attacks.
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Totally agree and its pointless, irritating and stupid.

But on the flipside, (and i've been there ;) but never resorted to those sort of comments ) Fox will drag an argument out, long after the "blue in the face" period, and most of the time people cannot be arsed, (myself included) to type a 20th counter-counter-counter-response to a retort first received a week ago. Thus they result to the child tactics.

Again, not justifying it, just furthering the point that I think there is more to it than just telling people to not respond in that way.

Sorry to use you as the example again Fox, but you are the obvious and well documented specimen ;)
 
Very good idea :). I'll be happy to RTM stupid posts. In reality though there's really only 5-6 knob heads, and they are very well organised ;P. lol
 
I'm agreeing with pretty much everything posted in this thread..

I do find it quite appalling sometimes when users post quite nasty comments about how someone elses new car is **** and how they should have brought something else. However there are some exceptions... (e.g. bluemotion thread :D)
 
i agree with this but something needs to be done about people de railling threads because they dont like the car its about

fair enough say you dont like it. but no need to start multiple page arguments with the people who do like it.

too many people on here just think that theyre opinion is the only opinion
 
"andy" said:
fair enough say you dont like it. but no need to start multiple page arguments with the people who do like it.
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It's called a discussion - this is a discussion forum after all. If you only posted in a thread if you liked the car you'd get 11 replies saying 'nice car'. What a worthwhile thread that would be.

too many people on here just think that theyre opinion is the only opinion
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I see this comment a lot and I don't really understand why, its a load of crap really. I can't think of anyone who would think that - I suspect you refer to me as one of them. Those of us who are most vocal in discussions know only too well that there more than one opinion exists - thats where the discussion comes from in the first place! If they thought the only opinion that existed was theirs they'd not get very far in a debate.
 
Good call.

I don't read or post here too much anymore for exactly the reasons mentioned. As said BMW's may be good cars and Mondeos may make great value for money buys but it's all getting so tedious.
Also do we need the
OMG u bought a diesel and only do 12k a year threads,
OMG u got a loan for a car thread,
OMG small carz are for foolz
OMG you want a low mileage car.. why not buy a 200k nail so you can get that m3 for £500
 
pinkaardvark said:
Also do we need the
OMG u bought a diesel and only do 12k a year threads,
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Well errr... yes? If somebody posts on here asking for advice about buying a car and they think they want a diesel why shouldnt people point out they are often false economy?

Why must we always assume that the OP knows what they want when in most cases they know very little (Usually why they are asking for advice!)? Most peoples decision making is based on assumption and misconception. Nothing wrong with people pointing out flaws in ideas etc etc.
 
[TW]Fox;12469907 said:
Well errr... yes? If somebody posts on here asking for advice about buying a car and they think they want a diesel why shouldnt people point out they are often false economy?

Why must we always assume that the OP knows what they want when in most cases they know very little (Usually why they are asking for advice!)? Most peoples decision making is based on assumption and misconception. Nothing wrong with people pointing out flaws in ideas etc etc.
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Yeah don't mind that, I guess but the arguments don't always hold up 100% of the time. Also as this is such a small community I knew you were going to say that before you even posted and I guess that's tiring.. but heh maybe that's just my issue.
 
pinkaardvark said:
Yeah don't mind that, I guess but the arguments don't always hold up 100% of the time. Also as this is such a small community I knew you were going to say that before you even posted and I guess that's tiring.. but heh maybe that's just my issue.
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I think thats one of the key issues and its something which is impossible to solve. The forum is made up of a number of members - some more vocal than others, and everyone has their own opinions.

So if you get 3 threads in a week about chosing a medium sized hatchback, which is pretty common, you will find the usual suspects posting the same thing in each thread. To some this might seem like a stuck record but think about it - why would person A's opinion on the best £6k hatchback have changed since he last offered it in a thread by somebody else?

Then you get the situation whereby person A gets slated becuase he 'always recommends a Mazda 3'. Well of course he does, if he genuinelly beleives thats the best car to buy for £6k if you want a reliable hatchback why is he going to turn around and suggest something completely different in the next 'spec me a hatchback' threaD?
 
[TW]Fox;12469954 said:
I think thats one of the key issues and its something which is impossible to solve. The forum is made up of a number of members - some more vocal than others, and everyone has their own opinions.

So if you get 3 threads in a week about chosing a medium sized hatchback, which is pretty common, you will find the usual suspects posting the same thing in each thread. To some this might seem like a stuck record but think about it - why would person A's opinion on the best £6k hatchback have changed since he last offered it in a thread by somebody else?

Then you get the situation whereby person A gets slated becuase he 'always recommends a Mazda 3'. Well of course he does, if he genuinelly beleives thats the best car to buy for £6k if you want a reliable hatchback why is he going to turn around and suggest something completely different in the next 'spec me a hatchback' threaD?
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Ye can agree with most of that, as said it's partly just my problem. But what I also find irritating is that once poster X has made their comment about Car XYZ being the best thing since sliced bread, that comment gets repeated hurled at the OP time and time again even if they have posted "I don't want car XYZ but thanks for the comment".

Example being a mondeo is a good value car, hell i'm on my third. But it's certainly not for everyone and would not fit everybody's criteria.

I guess what i'm trying to say is that a forum consensus seems to evolve around a few select opinions and it seems other opinions are then not tolerated to the general detriment of the forum experience.

I don't really rate vauxhalls but feel the vectra owners shouldn't need to cower in fear. And the polo bluemotion while people may want to rant about false economy marketing it's not a bad car, the motoring press certainly haven't slated it.
 
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