Hyundai 24" Vs OCUK 24"
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bought this monitor this week, rather annoyed that they dropped the price after offering it on special offer. Anyway I need to go to the shops before they close will post a full review when I get back in 30mins.
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This screen does look really nice. I look forward to the review.
As far as I know the LG is a TN panel, and therefore is not at all comparable with the MVA panel of the OCUK or the S-PVA of the Hyundai.
TN panels have great response times though, but when it comes to viewing angles, contrast and colors the VA panels are superior AFAIK.
Ah ok, thanks for that. The 170°/ 170° viewing angles and 5ms response time made me think it was PVA
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Ok here is my review for the Hyundai W240D. Firstly, just to say I am not a monitor expert and only have my old monitor and my flat mates monitor to compare it to.
The outside
Very nice style and design, the glossy surface does seem to be pretty easily scratched, not a major point but just be careful. The base has a large footprint, so while the monitor is only about 11cm deep, the base (ie the deepest part of the unit) is 24cm deep. The stand is easy to use and offers a decent amount of flexibility with adjustable height and it can turn 90° on its side. Great number of inputs, DVI, HDMI, VGA, and Component. It comes with DVI and VGA cables, so you will need to buy the extra ones if you want them. I haven't tested the speakers, after all they are monitor speakers, does anyone even use them?
Front controls are very hard to see without bright lighting but that isn't really a problem as you shouldn't really need to be going into the OSD very often. You can cycle through the inputs but just pressing the down button without having to go into the OSD. Unfortunately whilst the 'Soft touch' seems like a funky idea, it is rather hit and miss. For me the menu and select buttons can take 10 presses before it responds but the up, down, plus and minus work virtually every time. Highly annoying when trying to change settings in the OSD, but as I said before you should only really be needing to do this once then you are done.
The inside
It has a Samsung S-PVA panel inside and so of course you get great viewing angles and good colours. Unfortunately this is where the good news stops. I am slightly confused as to this next part as well. With RTC (overdrive) turned on there is very bad ghosting. When turned off, there is much less ghosting but you can still see it when moving a contrasting colour over another, eg black Winamp skin on white background or vice versa. I compare this to my 19" Xerox XA7 (TN panel) and a Gateway 22" with PVA panel both around 2 years old, and neither have any problems with ghosting.
On a more positive note I can't see any blacklight bleed I took a picture of it with a blank screen saver not really sure if the picture is of any use but here you go.
I don't have a a Xbox/PS3 to hookup to the monitor to test it on with them. There are 3 options in the OSD for resolution matching.
1 to 1 - This is what most people want as it uses the exact number of pixels that are asked for. If I put a 1280x1024 resolution on my PC with this I get the square picture in the centre of the screen without stretching or distortion.
Aspect ration - This will keep the same aspect ration as the requested resolution but will use as much of the screen as possible. If I asked for the 1280x1024 again it will again be in the centre of the screen but it will use all the height available.
Full(16:10) - This will stretch the image over the entire screen.
Ok I dont think I explained that very well so here is a picture to help.
In conclusion
If you are really looking for a monitor with great viewing angles and response time/ghosting isn't a big issue for you then sure go for this monitor.
Personally, I slightly regret buying it. I got sucked in by the marketing. The multiple inputs and adjustable stand are great, but I don't need it. As a gamer I should have at least seen a 24" monitor with a TN panel in action before I made my decision. Overall its not a bad monitor but my advice would be to try and see ANY monitor in action before you buy it.
NB Make sure you have a ATX (Kettle) cable as OCUK failed to supply one for me.
The outside
Very nice style and design, the glossy surface does seem to be pretty easily scratched, not a major point but just be careful. The base has a large footprint, so while the monitor is only about 11cm deep, the base (ie the deepest part of the unit) is 24cm deep. The stand is easy to use and offers a decent amount of flexibility with adjustable height and it can turn 90° on its side. Great number of inputs, DVI, HDMI, VGA, and Component. It comes with DVI and VGA cables, so you will need to buy the extra ones if you want them. I haven't tested the speakers, after all they are monitor speakers, does anyone even use them?
Front controls are very hard to see without bright lighting but that isn't really a problem as you shouldn't really need to be going into the OSD very often. You can cycle through the inputs but just pressing the down button without having to go into the OSD. Unfortunately whilst the 'Soft touch' seems like a funky idea, it is rather hit and miss. For me the menu and select buttons can take 10 presses before it responds but the up, down, plus and minus work virtually every time. Highly annoying when trying to change settings in the OSD, but as I said before you should only really be needing to do this once then you are done.
The inside
It has a Samsung S-PVA panel inside and so of course you get great viewing angles and good colours. Unfortunately this is where the good news stops. I am slightly confused as to this next part as well. With RTC (overdrive) turned on there is very bad ghosting. When turned off, there is much less ghosting but you can still see it when moving a contrasting colour over another, eg black Winamp skin on white background or vice versa. I compare this to my 19" Xerox XA7 (TN panel) and a Gateway 22" with PVA panel both around 2 years old, and neither have any problems with ghosting.
On a more positive note I can't see any blacklight bleed I took a picture of it with a blank screen saver not really sure if the picture is of any use but here you go.
I don't have a a Xbox/PS3 to hookup to the monitor to test it on with them. There are 3 options in the OSD for resolution matching.
1 to 1 - This is what most people want as it uses the exact number of pixels that are asked for. If I put a 1280x1024 resolution on my PC with this I get the square picture in the centre of the screen without stretching or distortion.
Aspect ration - This will keep the same aspect ration as the requested resolution but will use as much of the screen as possible. If I asked for the 1280x1024 again it will again be in the centre of the screen but it will use all the height available.
Full(16:10) - This will stretch the image over the entire screen.
Ok I dont think I explained that very well so here is a picture to help.
In conclusion
If you are really looking for a monitor with great viewing angles and response time/ghosting isn't a big issue for you then sure go for this monitor.
Personally, I slightly regret buying it. I got sucked in by the marketing. The multiple inputs and adjustable stand are great, but I don't need it. As a gamer I should have at least seen a 24" monitor with a TN panel in action before I made my decision. Overall its not a bad monitor but my advice would be to try and see ANY monitor in action before you buy it.
NB Make sure you have a ATX (Kettle) cable as OCUK failed to supply one for me.
seems pretty good to me, I have never experienced ghosting my self. I had a Belinea 10 20 35w monitor before which had an 8ms response time so im sure that must be worse than this panel. But i never noticed ghosting. I dont play online games though.
The bleeding (or lack of it) seems very good, although a little in the corners, but hardly noticable. This is the monitor I just bought form OCUK and am returning it tomorrow due to the backlight bleeding, which is terrible compared with this monitor.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17918649
The bleeding (or lack of it) seems very good, although a little in the corners, but hardly noticable. This is the monitor I just bought form OCUK and am returning it tomorrow due to the backlight bleeding, which is terrible compared with this monitor.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17918649
eddielenton can you tell me when you go into the display menu's what does it say when you select Miscellaneous -> Display Control -> ??
Mine says Display Control (TN). Now I'm hoping TN doesn't refer to the panel type lol! I'm pretty sure its PVA as it has this beside the serial no on the back, it just strikes me as an odd thing to put into a menu unless it means something else?
Mine says Display Control (TN). Now I'm hoping TN doesn't refer to the panel type lol! I'm pretty sure its PVA as it has this beside the serial no on the back, it just strikes me as an odd thing to put into a menu unless it means something else?
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Hmm.
the other thing is, has anyone seen the W240D-TN V2? Its supposed to be a big imorovement over V1. I dont know which one OCUK has, but i assume its V1. Here is the review: http://www.digitalversus.com/article-357-2946-49.html
Anyone seen or heard anything about it?
Anyone seen or heard anything about it?
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Yea mine says Display Control (TN). Never noticed that before but with these viewing angles there is no way mine is a TN 
Yes Nirok.
Oh and for the price of a pint you can come and see it haha.
Yes Nirok.
Oh and for the price of a pint you can come and see it haha.
Yea mine says Display Control (TN). Never noticed that before but with these viewing angles there is no way mine is a TN
ok cheers, thought mine was a PVA panel too gogin by the viewing angles but had that awful ah **** feeling for a second there
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I had the same trouble too Nirok. I finally managed to narrow my choices down to that LG that got posted earlier, the w240d, BenQ v2400w and Samsung SM-245B.
In the end I rushed my decision because I thought I needed to buy the monitor before the offer was over. That was a mistake.
My previous advice is the only thing I can say. The best thing you can do is to see it with your own eyes if that is at all possible.
In the end I rushed my decision because I thought I needed to buy the monitor before the offer was over. That was a mistake.
My previous advice is the only thing I can say. The best thing you can do is to see it with your own eyes if that is at all possible.
so If you would choose a different one, which would you go for? Im tempted by the TN version to be honest, as I dont care about viewing anges, as i sit in front of it. Colours, I doubt i would know any better, as long as they are good, its fine. Ghosting i might notice, but backlight bleeding i notice quite a bit.
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Definitely sounds like a TN panel would be better for you then. Do you really need all 4 inputs and the ability to turn the monitor on its side. If not then you might be better off with a cheaper monitor without these things. The LG one does come with a no dead pixel guarantee for 3 years so that is a plus.
There seems to be an element of chance in all this. People have reported backlight bleed on this monitor but I have none, yet no one else seems to have complained about ghosting.
There seems to be an element of chance in all this. People have reported backlight bleed on this monitor but I have none, yet no one else seems to have complained about ghosting.