nobody's arguing, its a discussion. im just interested especially with neoni's well known distain for Lars anway. The quality of the album is poor but as i mentioned, its no poorer than probably 90% of the rest of the stuff out there in the same genre.
Yes the productions poor, get over it, the songs are great, discuss the songs.
Make another thread if you want to slate each others views and tastes.
Its a thread about the Album as a whole...so thats what were discussing i dont doubt the songs are decent, but id enjoy it so much more if the sound was nicer on the ears.
I understand that part, but moaning about each others opinions and trying to prove someone's wrong isn't really interesting for people who want to talk about the album.
I love Rage but i would say most of their stuff is average as well.
.Average enough to have headlined 3 different stages in the UK this year whilst not having released an album in 9 years.
If they are that average, just how many other bands copy Morello's style?.
think about it, i wouldn't say i loved them and then say they were average if i were talking about the music, would i?I think the production is excellent and I would have been very proud to have pulled off a sound like that with a band.
Hell, I'm not even doing a Music tech degree either.
Sometimes I can't believe the crap that some people spout.
AND, Lars is an amazing drummer and this album goes to prove it.
The drumming on this album has just put him in front of Dave Lombardo for me.
If any of you can better him then prove it.
thats quite a reversal of opinions dmpool 
I think the production is excellent and I would have been very proud to have pulled off a sound like that with a band.
Hell, I'm not even doing a Music tech degree either.
Sometimes I can't believe the crap that some people spout.
no, this i really cant agree with. if they are pushing things to the point of distortion on the cd then it's poor production, there's no doubt about that.
thats all im getting at, any producer, mastering suite should be able to produce an album without distorting and clipping coming into the mix.
yes but you went as far as calling it dog **** lol. i dont agree with that either.
no, this i really cant agree with. if they are pushing things to the point of distortion on the cd then it's poor production, there's no doubt about that.
Lars an awesome drummer?
lol
Mine doesn't distort, perhaps there are poor copies out there.
Are you listening to the version off the newsgroups - that clipped?