2008 Italian GP - Race 14/18

Always nice to see a new guy win his first GP, great drive without any major faults.

Oh, lol at TheStig1 regarding the Hamilton/Webber incident
 
JRS said:
Hamilton ignored team orders and went out for Q3 ahead of Alonso on the road. This upset McLaren's strategy a bit. Alonso parked his car in the pit box for some extra time (about 10 seconds) before heading out for his final flying lap. Hamilton was delayed enough that he couldn't get another lap in.

Ron got angry enough to throw his headphones around, and had it out with Alonso on the morning of the race. Alonso then threatened to lift the lid on just how little Ron knew about what his team had been doing with the Ferrari data they'd obtained. Meanwhile, the stewards knock Alonso back five places on the grid for the heinous crime of not allowing Hamilton to get pole position....thus allowing Hamilton to get pole position.

Hamilton wins the race, Spygate completely blows up, and another McLaren driver partnership descends into acrimony.
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they also took mclarens points off them lol
was also rumoured to have been a verbal exchange on the radio between ron and boywonder when he refused to let alonso passed him in q3
 
Interesting views on some of the incidents i must say. Anyway a bit of a weird weekend for us, Webber doing a lot worse than expected although his tyres were shot within a few laps of the 1st pitstop. DC, well not much could be said really!

Vettel had a fantastic weekend and well deserved his maiden win, sure this will be the 1st of many. Double edged sword this one as obviously wanted Webber to be up there.
 
TheStig1 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiSQP-267QA

stop go for michael forcing hhf off the track
the lewis fans want constancy with the chicane cutting rules why not the rules for driving someone off the track?
maybe does not suit them this time round?
anyway no way was the fia going to do nothing after the belgian uproar so lewis escapes thanks to his media
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Clearly you can see MS has left HHF with no option but to put a wheel on the grass. Lewis did nothing of the sort. He left a cars width. You can move over all he likes if you leave a cars width. You can't punish him for leaving room.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Clearly you can see MS has left HHF with no option but to put a wheel on the grass. Lewis did nothing of the sort. He left a cars width. You can move over all he likes if you leave a cars width. You can't punish him for leaving room.
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lewis did it TWO times during the GP. once to a toyota (not sure if it was glock or trulli) and once to Webber.

he pushed the toyota clean off the road
 
also put fissi over the edge of the track as well

"I had to put up a fight to stop him coming by," he was quoted as saying by Reuters. "There was only one dry line and I made sure I covered my inside spot, but I didn't want to stay there on the wet patch or I wouldn't have made the corner. He just clipped my front wheel and went on."
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so thats 2 blocking moves then lewis
only allowed 1

what the tv cameras dont show :p


 
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TheStig1 said:
also put fissi over the edge of the track as well



so thats 2 blocking moves then lewis
only allowed 1
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I don't know if you haven't realised, or just choose not to see it, but a formula one car is designed for aerodynamics, not for the driver to be able to see behind him.
In the dry, the driver could just about make out a car at his rear tyre. In the wet, the driver probably wouldn't know if a car was parked on his side pod. The wing mirrors are probably half the size of regular car mirror, and placed on the edge of the drivers vision.
If you want Hamilton penalised for this, the Ferraris did the same thing to each other at Spa coming along the straight and that was in the dry, so visibility was better.
 
Going back to Hamilton/Webber briefly, having seen that corner taken over 2000 times over the weekend, Hamiltons entry on that occasion was no different to anyone elses.
 
Got him on the straight if memory serves, but thestigs blind and pointless hatred seems to have made him forget that hamilton did give that position back immediatly after by a hefty margin, which the TV cameras did show.

how do you put a user on ignore here?
 
El_Watcher said:
I don't know if you haven't realised, or just choose not to see it, but a formula one car is designed for aerodynamics, not for the driver to be able to see behind him.
In the dry, the driver could just about make out a car at his rear tyre. In the wet, the driver probably wouldn't know if a car was parked on his side pod. The wing mirrors are probably half the size of regular car mirror, and placed on the edge of the drivers vision.
If you want Hamilton penalised for this, the Ferraris did the same thing to each other at Spa coming along the straight and that was in the dry, so visibility was better.
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no the ferraris did not go off track did not make contact
really at least try and compare like for like
and thanks for your mirror lesson lewis knew webber was there he even said so but again that will be irrelevant?
 
The McLaren driver got involved in some close encounters during Sunday's Italian Grand Prix, including with his old foe and former teammate, Fernando Alonso.

"There was some unnecessary movements he made," the Spaniard told reporters in his native tongue at Monza, "and he repeated them with Glock and Webber. It is his way of racing."

Toyota's Timo Glock was also not pleased when asked about Hamilton's driving.

"I do not know what he was thinking. I was right next to him but he left me no room. Sometimes he drives as though he is completely alone on the track," the German is quoted as saying by RTL.

"The next time I am with him (on track), I will behave with him in exactly the same way," Glock promised.
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hope glock is true to his word then we can see how the lewis fans like racing in this way lol
 
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