thank you!
2008 Italian GP - Race 14/18
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thank you!
Totally agree regards the Glock/Hamilton incident - Lewis went out of his way to ensure Glock was driven off the track on part of the circuit that had no difficultly or excuse for his actions.
IIRC it was a pass for position but that was naughty by any standards and potentially dangerous (that grass would be wet and very slippery and could have launched him into the barrier if he applied too much throttle).
As much as I dont like Hamilton, I doubt a lot of his colleagues do either - he shows little respect to drivers who may not be of the same quality but still have earned their right to be in F1. Until hes won a championship his attitude is totally unjustified...
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Yep I've seen the glock one and that is the sort of thing that should be punished in F1. Moving over and making the driver run out of road. No repect.
The webber one though was perfectly fine. Webber had a cars width, it's then upto webber how late he can brake. You can't punish hamilton for racing hard against webber, he can't do more than leave him room.
I dislike hamilton but some people on here seem to have a crusade to pick apart every thing.
Lewis didn't do it TWO times as mentioned he did it once, the webber one was fair. Jesus Schumi used to do that move (the glock one) just about any time he went wheel to wheel with no punishment.
Don't blame him for the amount of ITV coverage he hates. It's no reason to dislike him.
I'm interested in how you came to this opinion. Please justify it.
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But in the Glock move, Hamilton neither cut the track, nor did he block in a braking zone.
Yes he gave him little room, but I have seen that move by most of the best drivers (like my Ferrari example), and I don't see you moaning about any of them. Heck even Nakajima did it, and he isn't even that good. Plus he actually did cause an accident.
I have never seen that sort of move punished unless there is an actual accident, and then it is clasified as causing an avoidable accident, but in some cases they may even punish the car behind for not lifting off.
That is actually what i like about him. He will try his best at being the best. Obviously he doesnt ram people off the road but his attitude is similar to all racing champions.
Doesn't matter if he hasn't won a championship yet he will with the attitude he has.
At the end of the day if other drivers can't hack the way Lewis overtakes, then perhaps they need to quit and move to a more gentle motor sport (and right now I cant think of one).
Top drivers make a name for themselves by driving fast and having the ability to overtake people. So much so, that eventually, other drivers actually pannick when they find that MS, G.Villeneuve, Senna or Hamilton are behind them and yield their position easier. The same goes for back markers. Senna was legendary at this - other drivers seemingly moved over for him. For this to happen though, he had to make some pretty aggressive moves on the track. Hamilton is currently doing that and will soon (if he hasnt already) have a reputation of being uncompromising and not to be messed with on the track.
Its been a long time since we have seen someone as aggressive as Hamilton (even MS used to prefer to overtake in the pits and not on-track) and other drivers are just going through a period of adjustment, to allow for such aggression/skill. Had they been around in the late 80's (Senna, Mansell, Piquet), they wouldn't be complaining about Hamilton, as they would already be used driving alongside aggressive drivers.
Overtaking is a skill and right now, Hamilton is showing that he is one of the best in the business when it comes to overtaking. I only hope that he doesnt get soft and start yielding to the criticism of lesser drivers such as Glock.
Alonso is also making the comment of Hamilton being aggressive, however, at no stage does he state that Hamilton is wrong in doing this. If Alonso had a Ferrari and was racing wheel to wheel with Hamilton, you can bet that both of them would go at it lap after lap, performing overtaking moves that probably no one else currently in F1 could make stick. Alonso dislikes Hamilton and likes to talk badly of Hamilton...thats the only reason why he made those comments. I can tell though, Alonso is itching to compete and beat Hamilton - he just needs a better car.
Top drivers make a name for themselves by driving fast and having the ability to overtake people. So much so, that eventually, other drivers actually pannick when they find that MS, G.Villeneuve, Senna or Hamilton are behind them and yield their position easier. The same goes for back markers. Senna was legendary at this - other drivers seemingly moved over for him. For this to happen though, he had to make some pretty aggressive moves on the track. Hamilton is currently doing that and will soon (if he hasnt already) have a reputation of being uncompromising and not to be messed with on the track.
Its been a long time since we have seen someone as aggressive as Hamilton (even MS used to prefer to overtake in the pits and not on-track) and other drivers are just going through a period of adjustment, to allow for such aggression/skill. Had they been around in the late 80's (Senna, Mansell, Piquet), they wouldn't be complaining about Hamilton, as they would already be used driving alongside aggressive drivers.
Overtaking is a skill and right now, Hamilton is showing that he is one of the best in the business when it comes to overtaking. I only hope that he doesnt get soft and start yielding to the criticism of lesser drivers such as Glock.
Alonso is also making the comment of Hamilton being aggressive, however, at no stage does he state that Hamilton is wrong in doing this. If Alonso had a Ferrari and was racing wheel to wheel with Hamilton, you can bet that both of them would go at it lap after lap, performing overtaking moves that probably no one else currently in F1 could make stick. Alonso dislikes Hamilton and likes to talk badly of Hamilton...thats the only reason why he made those comments. I can tell though, Alonso is itching to compete and beat Hamilton - he just needs a better car.
Yep.
Couldn't agree more. Hamilton was exactly the same in his GP2 days and the other drivers moaned. He doesn't care though, it's the way he is as a driver and it comes natural to him. It's perfectly fair and he has had it done to himself (by none other then Alonso). Alonso is a **** anyway, he just throws his teddies out of the pram at every given opportunity.
You make Hamilton not drive the way he does and a lot of excitement is taken out of the sport.
On a side note, no traction control *** - it has made a great change. Is it next year when when the extra aero-dynamics are to be removed and they go back to full slicks? That'll be interesting.
would like to see how lewis did in a toyota i bet glock would beat him
but anyway glock is not saying he cant hack it he is saying he will stick lewis on the grass next chance he gets
HAHAHAHAHA comment of the day. Made me laugh out loud - literally!
would like to see how lewis did in a toyota i bet glock would beat him
but anyway glock is not saying he cant hack it he is saying he will stick lewis on the grass next chance he gets
I wonder how long before we can get you banned. Not because I don't like your opinions, but your posts are just rubbish.
(and yes, I am aware of the irony in this post)
We will never know.
but anyway glock is not saying he cant hack it he is saying he will stick lewis on the grass next chance he gets
I doubt it. To do what Hamilton does is a skill and if it was that easy, then everybody would overtake and defend their positions using these techniques. Only the best drivers of the past have had these skills and Glock certainly isnt one of them.