Cigarettes - How damaging?

Karl · 16 Sep 2008 at 10:11

TriedandTested said:
Really? Cos you're not addicted. What other possible reason would you do it? Tastes and smells like ****. Is anti-social.

Fill me in...

Not everybody likes the taste or the smell, I appreciate that. I do however. I also like the feeling the nicotine gives me. I can understand why you might think I might be doing it just to look cool, but if my assertion that I'm not isn't enough for you, you can always just assume you're correct and leave the thread.

boomoo22 · 16 Sep 2008 at 10:13

Tefal · 16 Sep 2008 at 10:13

iraiguana said:
Every cigarette you smoke there is a chance of cancer start.

I guess you don;t eat red meat then?

-Ad- · 16 Sep 2008 at 10:13

You drastically increase your chances of DIEING................. DIEING...... DEAD... VERY ..... DEAD.... a lot more the more you smoke.

Can't believe people might defend the odd few here and there. I might start inhaling minute amounts of asbestos mixed with nicotine then claim the 'OMG it's soo hard to quit, none of you understand'.

No sympathy from me at all, and my mrs smokes. She knows I hate it and knows what she is doing to herself but doesn't care as she will 'eventually quit'. Ye right. Plus one of the most annoying things about it is that when out she goes off for a fag every 15 mins or so, so im left in a restaurant twiddling thumbs. Plus whenever in a rush to catch a bus or train etc the excuse, 'NO I need a fag as the last 30mins on transport has really got to me, we will get the next one' ticks me off.

Ranting now, but hey, I'm not cutting my life short with every puff and fleecing my bank balance.

jmhduck · 16 Sep 2008 at 10:13

Red and White said:
there is so much wrong with this statement i dont know where to start.

Tell me I want to know although don't insult me I'll cry

Karl · 16 Sep 2008 at 10:14

Red and White said:
there is so much wrong with this statement i dont know where to start.

Everyone has to start somewhere, give it a pop!

Makunouchi · 16 Sep 2008 at 10:14

SMOKE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKueV7_eXA0

aproctor · 16 Sep 2008 at 10:14

bledd. said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulcerative_colitis#Alternative_treatments

+

me owned.

http://bleddyn.co.uk

I am sorry for your loss so to speak, but it does not change the fact that most people would rather smoke than have a bag. Although it does look like it may help i would be interested to see the whole paper without having to pay.

But if its any consilation someone i know has crohns and smokes 40 a day, and did so before many years before he developed it.

"In spite of the findings of this review and analysis, the author finds no justification for health care providers to change the Surgeon General's recommendations on smoking or tobacco use for ulcerative colitis patients specifically."

Karl · 16 Sep 2008 at 10:15

-Ad- said:
You drastically increase your chances of DIEING................. DIEING...... DEAD... VERY ..... DEAD.... a lot more the more you smoke.

Can't believe people might defend the odd few here and there. I might start inhaling minute amounts of asbestos mixed with nicotine then claim the 'OMG it's soo hard to quit, none of you understand'.

No sympathy from me at all, and my mrs smokes. She knows I hate it and knows what she is doing to herself but doesn't care as she will 'eventually quit'. Ye right. Plus one of the most annoying things about it is that when out she goes off for a fag every 15 mins or so, so im left in a restaurant twiddling thumbs. Plus whenever in a rush to catch a bus or train etc the excuse, 'NO iI need a fag, we will get the next one' ticks me off.

Ranting now, but horrible things, and priced like gold dust too

Fair play mate, I can see why you're so bitter about smoking. That's not a good place to be in, but it's not the cigarette's fault.

MookJong · 16 Sep 2008 at 10:17

I used to smoke socially and never got hooked, but I've never had an addictive kind of personality.

I don't regret it at all, life is about experiencing. But I've ticked it off my list and I'll probably never do it again because of the health risk.

z0mbi3 · 16 Sep 2008 at 10:18

aproctor said:
There is no chance of 1 gram of tobacco causing cancer.

Surely if the chance of getting cancer increases proprotinaly to the amount you smoke then there has to be a chance, however small, of getting it from a single one.

aproctor · 16 Sep 2008 at 10:18

semi-pro waster said:
The reduced instances of mouth cancer compared to lung cancer is presumably due to there being fewer cigar smokers proportionally than cigarette smokers. Smoking a cigar as I understand it is quite distinct from smoking a cigarette since as you say you hold the smoke in your mouth for the taste rather than inhaling to the lungs.

Neither appeals to me much and I'd have to say that cigars probably smell a bit worse to me although I haven't really noticed the lingering smell you get with cigarettes as much.

I agree, but if you read my posti said the same thing.

bledd · 16 Sep 2008 at 10:20

aproctor said:
I am sorry for your loss so to speak, but it does not change the fact that most people would rather smoke than have a bag. Although it does look like it may help i would be interested to see the whole paper without having to pay.

But if its any consilation someone i know has crohns and smokes 40 a day, and did so before many years before he developed it.

"In spite of the findings of this review and analysis, the author finds no justification for health care providers to change the Surgeon General's recommendations on smoking or tobacco use for ulcerative colitis patients specifically."

i'm cool now, need to update my site really, no more bag etc

but it does say "Unlike Crohn's disease, ulcerative colitis has a lesser prevalence in smokers than non-smokers"

off topic now though

aproctor · 16 Sep 2008 at 10:21

Nexus said:
I never got on my soap box.
I simply stated what I've seen in regards to smoking in my life, my own '2 pence'.
You then start demanding I backup everything I say with with sources, like its some kind of GCSE history exam.

You made some very sweeping statments and i asked for you to back them up, then you got all high and mighty - draw what you will from that, read my posts before you accuse me of being in denial as i quite clearly have never said smoking is good for you or promoted it as health problems are enevitable to some degree if you smoke for long enough.

Greenlizard0 · 16 Sep 2008 at 10:22

aproctor said:
I am sorry for your loss so to speak, but it does not change the fact that most people would rather smoke than have a bag. Although it does look like it may help i would be interested to see the whole paper without having to pay.

But if its any consilation someone i know has crohns and smokes 40 a day, and did so before many years before he developed it.

"In spite of the findings of this review and analysis, the author finds no justification for health care providers to change the Surgeon General's recommendations on smoking or tobacco use for ulcerative colitis patients specifically."

They're trying to find out what it is exactly that appears to hinder U.C. such they can then administer it. There's a connection I never thought would appear!

aproctor · 16 Sep 2008 at 10:22

bledd. said:
i'm cool now, need to update my site really, no more bag etc

Good to hear, expecially the bag bit.

Red and White · 16 Sep 2008 at 10:23

ok. i'll give it a go :cool:

jmhduck said:
I like social smoking because I like smoking and the taste+nicotine

you like the taste of cigs and the nicotine?? thats blatantly bull imo

jmhduck said:
makes me feel great especially after a few beers.

in what way does it make you feel great? the nasty taste, the yellow sticky fingers? the yellow staining on your teeth, the possibility of stinky breath? the sudden difficulty to breathe comfatably? the coughing and spluttering?

jmhduck said:
However I don't want the health and cost factors of being a proper smoker hence why I don't smoke all the time.

second hand smoke is bad for you so what do you think 1st hand is like?

jmhduck said:
When I started smoking it was on my own by a river with no one else around so I couldn't really be trying to look cool if there was no one else there.

why by a river? it sounds like a bad scene from dawsons creek.

jmhduck said:
I decided after a while I had better things to spend my money on which didn't kill me.

only sensible part of the post

-Ad- · 16 Sep 2008 at 10:23

Karl said:
Fair play mate, I can see why you're so bitter about smoking. That's not a good place to be in, but it's not the cigarette's fault.

Just my Mrs smoking really upsets me. But she already knows that if we ever consider buying a house together in the next few years then I won't seriously get involved unless she quits. Just things like the 'It's my house aswell I will smoke where I want' would be horrible to face.

That's not a good place to be in, but it's not the cigarette's fault.

Don't defend them, burn them on a bonfire

Tefal · 16 Sep 2008 at 10:25

z0mbi3 said:
He said there was a chance, not a guarantee. Regardless one cigarette has the chance to start addiction, which leads to a slippery slope of possible health complications.

Fact of the matter is that if you don't do it then you don't run the risk of getting some nasty illnesses.

Birth is garrantied to be the start of a slipper slope which leads to the death of the child.

WE should ban birth!!!

aproctor · 16 Sep 2008 at 10:26

z0mbi3 said:
Surely if the chance of getting cancer increases proprotinaly to the amount you smoke then there has to be a chance, however small of getting it from a single one.

i see your point but 1 gram isn't enough, i am trying to find an article i read on it, although i fear it is on mintel and i dont have my login anymore.

Basically it was a study on varying consumption and the effects of smoking and the earliest point in which someone developed problems due to smoking was something stupid liek 60 Kilos of tobacco (60 -70K cigarettes) which works out at 11 a day for 15 years.