5Dii (for real this time)

EnglishMack said:
There seems to be an awful lot of biased opinions coming from Canon users here.
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There may be from some, but I don't see the problem with re-iterating that it's likely to have the best IQ out there, but with an "ok" as against great AF.

I see that it also uses the Canon sraw format, allowing file sizes at 10mp and 5mp. I seem to remember reading elsewhere that these options could be used to push higher ISO capabilities. Anyone else know something about that?
 
EnglishMack said:
There seems to be an awful lot of biased opinions coming from Canon users here.
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I have a 40D which does 7.8FPS so i'd be a bit bemused having to downgrade in this particular area when shooting fast! I'm too used to the speed so a 1D would be where I'd go! - then again a 5D/ii would not be what is targetted at me for example as it seems to be a more studio focused camera or landscape photography focused than one for outdoor usage in the everyday environment.
 
olv said:
rofl are you sure about that?
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Yes...it's been discussed before here and other 40d users and myself posted fps test photos of a stopwatch. On average there were 7 frames per second but to be exact with the stopwatch for me it was 7.8. This was on a Sandisk Extreme3 and a higher mAh battery when shooting RAW.

I can do the test again....
 
I think people harping on about resolution need to have a lesson in physics:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/resolution.shtml

In particular if you are lazy have a look at the table towards the bottom at the green-wave length light at F/11. This is the common settings, especially for landscape.

"take the green-yellow light and f/8-f/11 aperture values as a reference. It represents a realistic, not too demanding case. Consider a 35mm system with a lens at f/11. At best, the maximum resolution you will get is equivalent to 16 MP, even if your camera has 22 or 25 MP. In the case of an APS-C based system the limit goes to 7 MP, and 4 MP considering a Four Thirds format. Stopping down to f/22 the limit of the effective resolution of the 35mm based system goes to 4 MP!"


Thereby, increasing the sensor resolution has not increased the resolving power of the 5D under typical shooting conditions.

And this is with a theoretically perfect lens optimized for F/11 apertures. Even a Zeiss lens would perform decidedly worse.

Decreasing the aperture has a great effect on increasing potential resolving power, But a shallower DoF will mean a larger area of background requiring less and less resolution and better and better noise handling abilities.
 
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V-Spec said:
I've fallen in love with 21MP. The images are just gigantic and it gives you so many options of processing and cropping etc.

At the end of the day my friend has taken stunning pictures with his Nikon 4MP D2H, before he upgraded to a D3...

We don't NEED 50 point af, we don't NEED ISO 9783459, we don't NEED 21MP, we don't NEED video, we don't NEED 10fps.... We don't really NEED anything other than 5-8MP and manual focus.... but we choose all the good stuff because it makes everything better..

Most of the landscape photographers I know shoot medium/large format for a reason, not many of those would be happy with 12MP for that sort of stuff.
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The reason for landscape photographers using medium and large format cameras is that they require the larger surface area to gain the resolving power. This allows 40Mp sensors to be effective.

Whether someones needs 40MP or not depends on their intended output. 4Mp is absolutely plenty for use on the web, 8-12Mp loads for almost all standard printing. 12Mp will print A2 No problem. The higher resolution si reserved for billboard sized advertising.
 
mrk said:
Yes...it's been discussed before here and other 40d users and myself posted fps test photos of a stopwatch. On average there were 7 frames per second but to be exact with the stopwatch for me it was 7.8. This was on a Sandisk Extreme3 and a higher mAh battery when shooting RAW.

I can do the test again....
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dpreview's extensive testing shows otherwise...

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos40d/page13.asp


as for the 5d mkII, the rather pedestrian 1/200 flash sync and lack of weather sealing makes this camera a no-go for me. oh well.
 
Well, I don't really care what the review shows because I've timed it as have others in person and we have found we are getting beyond 7fps.
 
Well least one thing since the MkII been shown, we should see the orginal 5D bodies coming in at under £1000 new now as they try to offload them.

Which while not up there with the new Full frame bodies it's still full frame never the less and still takes excellent photo's.
 
wo0kie said:
dpreview's extensive testing shows otherwise...

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos40d/page13.asp
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They also show 3fps for the 400D yet I just done a test shooting RAW, 200ISO, 1/800s, f2.8 with a Sandisk Ultra II and got 3.9fps (standard battery) and 4.1fps (high mAh grip).

5D MkII looks good for its intended use which is mostly going to be in studios, it is however priced too high in the UK and should have had things like weather sealing.
 
Well I've been waiting for a while for this to come out, as it is likely to be the camera I upgrade to relatively soon.

Overall, I think it's pretty good. A lot of people have been bashing the fact that it doesn't have weather sealing, which is strange, seeing as it does. But if you're after a 1000 point AF system and 50fps then the 5D was never going to be the camera for you. What were you expecting exactly? The 5D was a FF camera basically all about the image quality rather than anything else. According to the more detailed article on dpreview (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08091707canon5dmkiipreview.asp) it's basically got the sensor from the 1DsMk3, with a few tweaks. They took this to mean improvements, but even if they don't make any difference, the image quality is still going to be stunning.

I'm not personally bothered about the video, but I can see a lot of people would be, so I do think it's a clever feature.

I shall just have to see how much Mr. Kerso can get it for when I'm looking at changing body ...
 
A.N.Other said:
Well I've been waiting for a while for this to come out, as it is likely to be the camera I upgrade to relatively soon.

Overall, I think it's pretty good. A lot of people have been bashing the fact that it doesn't have weather sealing, which is strange, seeing as it does. But if you're after a 1000 point AF system and 50fps then the 5D was never going to be the camera for you. What were you expecting exactly? The 5D was a FF camera basically all about the image quality rather than anything else. According to the more detailed article on dpreview (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08091707canon5dmkiipreview.asp) it's basically got the sensor from the 1DsMk3, with a few tweaks. They took this to mean improvements, but even if they don't make any difference, the image quality is still going to be stunning.

I'm not personally bothered about the video, but I can see a lot of people would be, so I do think it's a clever feature.

I shall just have to see how much Mr. Kerso can get it for when I'm looking at changing body ...
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Rob Galbraith has described in greater detail the advancements made on the 1DsIII sensor, if you're interested.

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-9316-9607

Oh and the Video capture looks to be a lot better than the Nikon D90's.
 
Disappointing new lens announcements.
I'm off the US next year so might pick up the new 5D if the price is right by then.
 
Col_M said:
Looks nice :cool:

People who buy a 5D generally do so for image quality for things like studio work, landscape or weddings, none of them require high FPS or massive amounts of AF points.
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Surely though there would be a large market for the pros who want a compact back up body with similar AF and FPS rates & features.
The D700 delivers that. The Canon misses that market by a mile.
 
What the hell are Canon playing at? The 5D MKII matches our 1DS MKIII in terms of megapixels and surpasses it in terms on senstivity for under half the price! :mad:
 
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