General Unbiased Police Question:

mglover070588 said:
Was thinking more along the lines of cars in the league of M3's, 911s and the like.
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Yeah, for that sort of car I can see them getting away from the helo, which is why they then try and run stinger strips etc. further up the road on harder to follow cars...or just give up and go to the doughnut shop. :p

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mglover070588 said:
A mates golf gti 150 td remapped to around 200hp does 145mph (om the speedo) quite easily, I very much doubt a helicopter could keep up, any petrol turbo would be even quicker.

EDITL sorry i edited my post, just realised you quoted it
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It can do that in a straight line provided there's no traffic, which is fair unrealistic in real life, slow down for a corner and the helicopter is still doing the same speed. Realistically the only place I can see that speed being possible is a motorway, which given there are limited exits is probably pretty easy to catch people on.

At the end of the day I don't think it matters, 95% of car thieves can't drive for toffee and would likely crash at the sort of speed you'd need to be doing to get away. The 5% that can they'd likely give up the pursuit on safety grounds or just get a helicopter in surely?
 
Police cars are not "tuned" or "mapped".

They have said as much themselves in the past, ******* around with tuning them up doesnt do reliability any favours when you are a cash strapped constabulary.
 
Mr Joshua said:
There was quite an interesting clip on traffic cops a while ago in Manchester (I think) where the police were in an unmarked STI and the were following an Evo - found it
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Actually a standard WRX with two big coppers and a hundred kilos of police equipment in it - so hardly surprising that the FQ360 (IIRC) showed it a clean pair of heels.


Yes, most police forces have at least one 150+mph car for serious pursuits, which realistically is as fast as you are likely to get on UK roads. Some have several. The helicopters mostly have a top air speed of about 145mph, so much will be down to which way the wind is blowing - put sooner or later the target vehicle is going to hit traffic and be down to 30mph like normal mortals. Even if they start using the hard shoulder they'll be slower than the helicopter then.

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This video actually made me chuckle - a direct link from the previous YouTube video posted, the criminal still indicates when evading the police... Why?!? Haha.
 
Police drivers are

a) better
b) can call on whole police forces
c) have access to a helicopter

You aren't really going to get away unless your a huge scale criminal gang.
 
I asked my dad's friend who is a police officer in london this exact same thing.
He told me straight up that yes he has seen A LOT of people get away, it takes quite a few safety checks and regulations to get to the point where they can bring out the helicopter. He said the main problem was that if the driver got reckless enough their head would simply tell them to abandon the chase for safety.

That said police now have fast cars, in edinburgh we have the EVO marked police vehicles
 
The truth is contrary to the "YOU ALWAYS GET CAUGHT" message spurted out by programs like Police, Camera, Action quite often you don't get caught and many get away quite easily.
 
Vanilla said:
The truth is contrary to the "YOU ALWAYS GET CAUGHT" message spurted out by programs like Police, Camera, Action quite often you don't get caught and many get away quite easily.
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a lot get away near me. Moped/motorbike into park and the police just give up because there is no way to chase them.
 
2 ways really:

1. Helicopter - Once that gets above you then let the car speed away
2. Radio's - No car can travel faster than a radio wave. Call ahead and setup the road block

As has also been said a lot of the forces have high speed cars available as well and cars cannot go flat out all the time.
 
AFAIK the only slow police cars are the panda cars etc. The traffic cars are all very quick - ie. the "standard issue" traffic car - a Volvo V70 T5 has 256bhp with a 0-60 of 6.6secs and onto a top speed of over 155mph. More than enough to deal with the day to day criminals that they deal with.

However i have heard about experienced traffic officers requesting quicker cars (ie. Evo's, Impreza's etc) when they are dealing with specific things ie. gangs of burglars who have consistently evaded capture due to them having cars that are too quick.

The traffic units have access to all sorts of cars - Focus ST's, various BMW's, various Mercs. Then there are special traffic units (such as those seen on Police Interceptors) who are given Evo's, Imprezas, ST220's etc because they are targetting car theft, which results in a lot of fail to stops - hence needing the edge over the crims!
 
It will vary from service to service what cars are used and available. Some, like Essex, invest a lot of money in high performance vehicles. Other areas don't bother so much. Thames Valley, for example, don't have anything special that I know of. There's the petrol V6 Omegas and Vectras that are unmarked (and a Mondeo or two I believe, and the diesel Omegas and Vectras that are marked. Even their Armed Response Vehicles aren't anything special, they use the Ford Galaxy, S-Max and the Merc Vito.
 
atpbx said:
Police cars are not "tuned" or "mapped".

They have said as much themselves in the past, ******* around with tuning them up doesnt do reliability any favours when you are a cash strapped constabulary.
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Sorry, but some are....

Essex police high speed cars are tuned by Prodrive.
 
You see lots of Evo's and Scooby's around here. In London I used to regularly see 4 x BMW E60 M5's parked up.

i doubt they'd have much luck catching Gibbo's 'stang though! :D
 
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mglover070588 said:
A mates golf gti 150 td remapped to around 200hp does 145mph (om the speedo) quite easily, I very much doubt a helicopter could keep up, any petrol turbo would be even quicker.

EDITL sorry i edited my post, just realised you quoted it
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I just randomly googled the specs of a random McDonnel Douglas helicopter which appeared to be used by lots of forces - the Explorer.

It has a top speed of 175mph, and a cruising speed of 155.

To put it in perspective, I know a guy round here who owns a light aircraft. Just a little single prop, 2 person thing. I think it can cruise at about 120 knots, so not much more than 100mph. He can fly from Northamptonshire to the Isle of Wight in an hour.

A helicopter cruising at 155 would make the journey in 40 minutes. To make the same journey on the road in the same time would mean *averaging" 155mph on the road - which is surely impossible in any vehicle, as a modern F1 car averages near enough 155 around Monza.
 
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