School assault -course of action?

For reference, a year 10 kid at my old school was taking the mick of a year 11's girlfriend, and the year 11 kneed him in the chest.

The boy's parents reported it to the police and the year 11 got arrested and questioned at the police station. He was never convicted of anything, but it was a bit of a labourious process.
 
Some of the responses here astound me Are these the same posters who complain bitterly about chavs and ****** continually in other threads? There is no excuse for violent assault and has anyone who advocates that it is "boys will be boys" stopped to consider that it may be that attitude that has just perhaps contributed to the feral and violent society that we experience in some parts of the UK today? Just a thought.
 
OcUK has double standards, what's new? When they're not complaining about chavs being chavs and drunken loutish violence, they're happily going along saying it's alright for this kind of thing as it's only 'boys being boys'. Somebody give me a break, seriously.
 
Repta said:
Taking an swing at someone is far far from a competitive sport. To make that comparision you have to be pretty stupid. O and before you try to brand be in the 'competitive sport is bad for kids' brigade i have boxed, played rugby and done several martial arts since i was around 10 yet have never taken an swing at someone over something as stupid as a bad tackle
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Well good for you, but newsflash - it happens and it's not a matter for the police. You want to go wrap your kids in cotton wool go for it.

At no point have I said it's not wrong, it is and deserves action, internal suspension or whatever if it was seen by a teacher. But getting the police involved is lunatic stuff, parents going in to demand action because their kid got hit by another kid (and they probably didn't get the full story from him), if kids can't get themselves through that, that's a concern.
 
Brian Stuart said:
Some of the responses here astound me Are these the same posters who complain bitterly about chavs and ****** continually in other threads? There is no excuse for violent assault and has anyone who advocates that it is "boys will be boys" stopped to consider that it may be that attitude that has just perhaps contributed to the feral and violent society that we experience in some parts of the UK today? Just a thought.
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I doubt there's a connection though, I can't name any of my friends who didn't have some fight of some kind with someone else at school at one point and they turned out just fine, no trace of chav there.
 
To anyone who calls this 'normal school behaviour', the kids are 15 and to all intents and purposes almost adults. If a random 30 year old bloke started on another and gave him a black eye would you be telling the victim to shrug it off and man up? Especially if it happened repeatedly?

It's totally unacceptable that a 15 year old would consider this an ok thing to do.
 
Hardly, i remember the first day i had in school, was crying on the way in. Got to the gates and my mum said "and remember, if anyone hits you hit them back."

It eventually happened and i did, so what?
 
Stringy said:
To anyone who calls this 'normal school behaviour', the kids are 15 and to all intents and purposes almost adults. If a random 30 year old bloke started on another and gave him a black eye would you be telling the victim to shrug it off and man up? Especially if it happened repeatedly?

It's totally unacceptable that a 15 year old would consider this an ok thing to do.
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They're 15, my brother's 15 and he's an immature little pain still, I'm also not convinced he could actually harm anything bigger than a mouse in a fight.
 
rjknight007 said:
Hi Guys,
My 15 year old nephew returned home from school today with the mother of all shiners. Apparantly he was punched in the face by the resident school psycho. Fortunately this assault was witnessed by at least one teacher who intervened before worse damage could occur.

There was an assault yesterday too, also witnessed by a teacher, which thankfully didn't leave him visibly injured.

We have taken photographs of his bruised face and will be going to the school tomorrow.

The fact that the assault was witnessed by a member of staff should hopefully lead to immediate expulsion for psycho kid tomorrow.

But do others have experience of this kind of affair? If so, could they pass on any helpful advice.

Thanks in advance.
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To be honest it depends on what type of school it has and the policy in place for such an incident. The incident will be viewed on CCTV, Witness statements will then be taken by the teacher, then senior management get involved with the parent of the attacker coming into school for a meeting.

Now dependent on how far down the 'chain' the school is the punishment may just be isolation for 2 weeks, or it could be suspension.
 
Andrew1978 said:
Hardly, i remember the first day i had in school, was crying on the way in. Got to the gates and my mum said "and remember, if anyone hits you hit them back."

It eventually happened and i did, so what?
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Good for you. However, it's hardly advice that be applied indiscriminately. In the same way that if you carry a knife for self defence it's likely to cause escalation, what if fighting back only worsens things? Bully punches kid, kid swings back (hurting, but by no means incapacitating the bully), then the Bully proceeds to pummel the kid in a rage? Sounds like a great idea.
 
Physcho kids are always treated softly nowdays. My mum had to teach a phsycho for quite some time and we are pretty sure he'll be on the news when hes older after he's murdered somone. it also took 4 inspectors and 6 years for them to finally diagnose him with general mental disorders.
 
bigredshark said:
They're 15, my brother's 15 and he's an immature little pain still, I'm also not convinced he could actually harm anything bigger than a mouse in a fight.
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A lot of 15 year olds are pretty much fully developed physically, they are stronger than you are giving them credit for and can do each other some serious harm should they wish. Even more so if they are particularly sporty. Some aren't as well developed but a lot of kids that age are. They may not be quite so mentally mature but physically they aren't far off!
 
I can't see how it's normal or acceptable for a kid to come home from school with a black eye. No matter what school or area. If a kid threw a punch or assulted anther child - he needs disiplined - simple as.

In fact - from my teenage years at school, I can only remember there being 2 guys who threw punches at other guys in the space of 4 years from 12 - 16. And there were approx 35 males in our year. AND, that was back from '86-'89 when there was much less of a nanny state.
 
Stringy said:
Good for you. However, it's hardly advice that be applied indiscriminately. In the same way that if you carry a knife for self defence it's likely to cause escalation, what if fighting back only worsens things? Bully punches kid, kid swings back (hurting, but by no means incapacitating the bully), then the Bully proceeds to pummel the kid in a rage? Sounds like a great idea.
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Are you actually suggesting that standing up for yourself is a bad thing?
 
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