2008 Singapore GP - Race 15/18
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That certainly explains why I wasn't amused.
Yes, there is. If you go back over my posts, you'll find I've never disputed that. What I do dispute is that this has to automatically mean that the FIA are helping Ferrari, rather than just hindering McLaren.
Think about it - Ferrari are generally going to benefit if Hamilton gets stamped on by the stewards/FIA/ninja badgers. And there is - what's the technical term? Ah yes - **** all evidence that the FIA are out to help Ferrari. But the case could be made that there is plenty of evidence to support an anti-McLaren bias.
Uh...last race was Monza dude, not Spa. I realise it's hard to keep track when you're so worked up about this supposed pro-Ferrari bias, but come on - focus, please.
Yes, ruling the appeal as inadmissable was about the worst way they could possibly have handled things. And again, go back over my posts - when have I ever said that Lewis deserved that penalty at Spa?
Which hasn't been punished a few times this season, yet a Ferrari does it and suddenly we get an almighty ******* ruckus - funny, that.
That was just plain wrong.
Lets have a look at these penalties, hey?
Malaysia - grid penalty, for getting completely in the way in qualifying. Not unprecedented.
Canada - drove into the back of a stationary car in the pitlane with the red light on and the team telling him over the radio that he should probably be hitting the brakes. He should have been banned for a race just for that level of stupidity
France - bounced a chicane. Didn't give the spot back. It was obvious what was going to happen, and McLaren (who have been at this game a fair while now) should have told him to let the car back past.
Spa - he got screwed.
If all it took was winning against the odds, then James Hunt would be lauded as the greatest F1 driver of all time....
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If that's true then full credit to him, stunning lap under pressure.
Indeed! If he pits tomorrow on the same lap (or even a lap before Hamilton), this qualifying lap would be Massas best of all time.
Great lap by Massa. I think he and his race engineer were genuinely stunned. Lewis was, too.
Its strange that when Hamilton goes quick, everyone says, he did it on merit. Yet, when Massa goes quick, apparently the only way he can achieve this is by being ultra light on fuel.
When will people understand that Massa is now a genuine title contender and can match the pace of Kimi and Hamilton. He struggled in the first GP of the year, but since then, he has learnt how to drive without driver aids. In fact, the person who appears to have suffered without driver aids is Kimi. Who'd have thunk it???
Its strange that when Hamilton goes quick, everyone says, he did it on merit. Yet, when Massa goes quick, apparently the only way he can achieve this is by being ultra light on fuel.
When will people understand that Massa is now a genuine title contender and can match the pace of Kimi and Hamilton. He struggled in the first GP of the year, but since then, he has learnt how to drive without driver aids. In fact, the person who appears to have suffered without driver aids is Kimi. Who'd have thunk it???
of course he isnt going to admit if they fueled lighter. we will find out tomorrow.
Respect to this comment.
James Hunt was a little before my time. But from what I hear, he was a boozing, womanizing driver who was quick. However, if you choose to live you life that way, its unlikely that you will be able to sustain your performance in the same way that Prost and MS did.
I dont rate those types.
When was the last time you saw a race engineer "lie" about his drivers fuel load?
I cant recall certainly in 20 years of watching F1.
Massa may well be lighter, but not significantly lighter to explain a 0.6sec defecit.
And he was a dedicated father to his two boys. Funny how people can have that dual nature, huh?
And he didn't. But in the short time he was driving in F1, he provided more excitement than Hamilton will ever manage
What, F1 world champions? Yikes.
And he didn't. But in the short time he was driving in F1, he provided more excitement than Hamilton will ever manage
Like I've stated, I'm not totally aware of James Hunt and his exploits. What little Ive read about him is that he was a womanizer and he quit at the peak of his powers...something to do with not getting a good car to drive.
But, with regards to excitement, since Hamilton has arrived on the scene, he has upped the excitement factor significantly. Last year was probably the best season in F1 in recent times and this year is turning out to be one with many twists and turns. The dude drives eyeballs out everytime and you know that he is going out there to put up fast times - he doesnt hold back, like MS or Prost used to.
Hamilton is a driver forged with the philosophies of drivers of old - to be fastest in every session is of the utmost importance. Mansell and Senna were the same and F1 was more enjoyable as a result.
A good example was in Spa, when Hamilton was trying to get passed Kimi. Another example was in Monza when he was the fastest guy on the track and could've potentially won the race. Another example was in today's qualifying when he finished 10th in Q2 and only just made it into Q3. Hamilton and excitment go hand in hand. I only wish that Alonso had a decent car to drive as that would make Hamilton work even harder.
On the subject of Massa - I think he prefers the tight and twisty tracks. In Monaco he was on pole (and was thwarted by rain and Hamilton), he won Valencia and now he is on pole for Singapore.
Historically, only the top tier drivers did well on tight/twisty street circuits. Would this infer that Massa is a top tier driver?
Historically, only the top tier drivers did well on tight/twisty street circuits. Would this infer that Massa is a top tier driver?
Well... I think you can expand it out to medium/high downforce circuits even sunama...
Recall Hungary and Bahrain as well.. he did well in those too.
I think had Suzuka been on the calendar he would struggle there. Lucky its Fuji this year
Recall Hungary and Bahrain as well.. he did well in those too.
I think had Suzuka been on the calendar he would struggle there. Lucky its Fuji this year
In Valencia... Massa was P3 on the grid to Hamilton P1.
Massa raced off into the distance and yet stopped 1 lap after Hamilton.
I.e. Massa was heavier and was still able to pull out a lead.
Valencia = Singapore in circuit setup surely.
Massa raced off into the distance and yet stopped 1 lap after Hamilton.
I.e. Massa was heavier and was still able to pull out a lead.
Valencia = Singapore in circuit setup surely.
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