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Anyone else experiencing destruction exploiting every round in T3 senario with the lava?

Played around 50 arounds over the weekend, And every single round they get the flag first and run back to there spawn for a free win.. getting quite annoying!

If your wondering how they do it, I can spill the beans. Its not because they start closer btw, Altho that has got something to do with it.
 
Anyone else experiencing destruction exploiting every round in T3 senario with the lava?

Played around 50 arounds over the weekend, And every single round they get the flag first and run back to there spawn for a free win.. getting quite annoying!

If your wondering how they do it, I can spill the beans. Its not because they start closer btw, Altho that has got something to do with it.

Will it ever stop yo I don't know turn off the lights and I'll glow.
 
To be fair UO was a pretty special case in being the first (and best!). My main issue is that because they seem to have pitched the server pops a touch low, it's very difficult (unless you are in a big guild) to get a feel for where the battles are taking place. Once you're in them it's fantastic and some of the best fun I've had, but finding them is a bit of a nightmare.

I also think that some of the handholding (indicating where quests are, PQ directions etc) actually works against the community feeling as you don't really feel the need to talk to anyone. They're fantastic ideas and implemented brilliantly, perhaps TOO brilliantly!

I suppose so, our guild isnt a big one as such (around 50 members), but yeah it certainly helps with finding the action. Other than that I usually just follow the battle markers to find the rvr.

I think people do still ask questions (at least they certainly do in our guildchat/voice comms), its just that these days its a lot easier to ask your guild where something is/how you do something, rather than asking publicly where you just get either abuse, ignored, told to learn to play or chuck norris gags in reply. At least from guildmates you get a sensible and quick answer :)
 
Anyone else experiencing destruction exploiting every round in T3 senario with the lava?

Played around 50 arounds over the weekend, And every single round they get the flag first and run back to there spawn for a free win.. getting quite annoying!

If your wondering how they do it, I can spill the beans. Its not because they start closer btw, Altho that has got something to do with it.

I've only ever seen order exploiting. Something to do with lava walking...
 
I've only ever seen order exploiting. Something to do with lava walking...


wow thats lucky, Only saw one person all weekend on order that knew how to do it. Its not lava walking either. Oh and jumping over lava is not an exploit, Thats a tactic.
 
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Anyone else experiencing destruction exploiting every round in T3 senario with the lava?

Played around 50 arounds over the weekend, And every single round they get the flag first and run back to there spawn for a free win.. getting quite annoying!

If your wondering how they do it, I can spill the beans. Its not because they start closer btw, Altho that has got something to do with it.

There have been lots of complaints about this :(
 
Take it from me, myself and observations of other Witches is that we pick you off from behind your main group or from the sides, you don't expect someone to be so crazy but when everyone is concentrating on the front line I usually go take out the casters and run.

My point is two fold playing the both destruction and order to the same level:

1) Playing a DE sorcerer is far safer - there's nobody that moves behind the DE line and can take a sorcerer down in 2 seconds at close range without being noticed.

2) Spending 95% of your time staring at the respawn timer and the other 3% running from the camp to the battle isn't my idea of 'fun'. Hence the archmage class is only really fun at PvE..

Just annoying.. because you rely on team work.. and I've not seen any team work on order in RvR kaine's..
 
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Remember the time I said “Witch elves kill me in two seconds,” and I commented that it might be a bit overpowered? Well, I was wrong, and the reason I was wrong was a beautiful tank ability called “Guard” that shares 50% of all damage I take with the tank…who - with their vastly superior mitigation and HP pool - easily soak their own damage and half of mine. It means I can hold off a Witch Elf, or a couple of tanks, while I heal both myself and the tank. It works great.

Also, you’ll note that Ironbreakers are dwarves and thus very short; I’ve found it is remarkably easy for me to jump over them to put them between me and would-be melee attackers. I also use as much terrain as possible…I never stop moving, keeping everything I can find between me and what will sometimes seem a very frustrated melee unit who knows they can kill an Archmage in two seconds if they would just stand still.

Actually, now I do sometimes stand still for them…because with Guard and my detaunt on them, it’s easy for me to keep myself topped off and keep them loaded up with DoTs. I also spam Drain Magic every chance I get, because burning away over a third of that action bar of theirs means they will run out of AP first. I blow it early so I can use it again in the same duel. I can’t wait to get that tactic that awards me AP when I burn theirs. Would I rather have the Shaman channeled one? I don’t think I do. While it may seem numerically superior, there’s definitely something to be said for yet another instant that gives me a point of Force, burns 1/3 of their AP, does a bit of instant damage (however small, it’s like a pulse of a DoT in my mind), and will eventually give me some AP to extend my burst-capability during that duel. It doesn’t commit me (unlike my Hand-Laser, which I admit I enjoy using since it disregards LoS once it starts).

I had a few really good fights tonight. One duel between a Chosen, a Sorceress, and myself in Nordenwatch; I strafed constantly around a large boulder to break line of sight from the Sorceress so I could focus on the Chosen. I lost that fight, but it was a really fun one. I also had a really fun skirmish with two Zealots and a Magus. At that point in the evening our Swordmaster was there helping me out, but he peeled away from the Magus to pull a Chosen off of me, leaving me to play a little game where I would DoT both Zealots and scare at least one away, load the Magus up with DoTs, light myself up like the Central Park Christmas Tree with heals, and repeat the process. With two healers to my one, I wasn’t able to kill any of the three…but I got close on the Magus a few times. And this wasn’t a level differential…they were all 9s and I was 9. (As of the end of the night, I’m 10.5.)

So far as Scenarios go, I’ve noticed something; they go one of three ways:
1. Destruction is either better organized or has level superiority (or both) and steam rolls Order.
2. Order is either better organized or has level superiority (or both) and steam rolls Destruction.
3. Both sides put up a really good fight and one or the other wins by kills or a final capture, both teams in the high 400s.

None of those situations seems to happen more than any other; I’d call that balance too. This game does have balance, and the more I play it, the more I see it. It’s hard to wrap your mind around, especially when some class (e.g. Witch Elves or Marauders) gleefully chases you down to kill you in a matter of seconds and they succeed whenever you don’t have back up. The trick is to always have back up. That’s why you want a guild.

My first scenario tonight was Nordenwatch, and I went in there with five For Science peeps (basically everybody except for the Swordmaster in the photo…he was at work). With communication and teamwork, it’s amazing what we can do. A Rune Priest and an Archmage healing together - even each other - must be a tremendous pain in the ass for Destruction; it’s like you can’t kill us (not even Witch Elves) unless you swarm us (and sometimes they do). But swarming us is hard when our tank and DPS team will go out of their way to stick themselves between the bad guys and their healers. I swear, just the five of us alone could take on twice our number in Destruction randoms. Teamwork is so vital in this game; it’s entirely balanced around it. And whatever changes they make, I sincerely hope they stick with that mentality. It makes the game awesome. Team work is very fun and extremely rewarding mechanic-wise, so it’s twice the fun.

Find yourselves a guild and get into it. Make sure it’s a nice one. Mine will be recruiting starting Thursday…now only because I have a crap-ton of work to do tomorrow and I may not even be on. (Play all night today, work all night tomorrow: balance. =\ ) Every guild is recruiting now. Go get one. If it sucks, ditch it and find another one. There are many, and you should shop. Or get a whole ton of your RL friends to join you and do it up. Remember what’s really important about guilds: and that’s running in with several of your buds carrying flags to bolster your fellow troops.

Standards. Are. Groovy.

I’m glad we had this talk. Now stop whining about Witch Elves (this means you, Thade) and make friends with more tanks.

Source: here
 
Tor Anroc is great fun, if its a fair fight.

Ive seen a few things done by both teams that are obviuosly "exploits" as such (not as intended) but untill they get patched out theres not much you can do about it.

Order win everytime if they hae white lions grabing the ball.

Destruction can grab the ball if they jump over the lava.

Both sides have places they can go where they cant be got at by the other side (orders is in there base so safe, destructions is under the cliff so someone could jump down and kill them in theory).

The bigest probelm is people only ever play Tor anorc, I've only ever got into The Dam map once and never the other 4 T3 games.
 
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