Warning: BT Users 30-Sep-08
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It is now opt-in (so that will severely dent their sales income) but they are desperate to offer tasty treats to customers. They are running a survey on if you want £1 off your monthly bill, an upgrade to a faster service (yeh right!) etc.
Unfortunately the way the screen is worded, and the fact that the account holder does not have to be present to allow his family to be profiled means that even this opt-in process is flawed.
Unfortunately the way the screen is worded, and the fact that the account holder does not have to be present to allow his family to be profiled means that even this opt-in process is flawed.
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i cant say it bothers me 
id rather ad's relating to me browsing style be fired at me than stuff i wont ever need or want.
id rather ad's relating to me browsing style be fired at me than stuff i wont ever need or want.
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@Marky
they never did in the 2006 and 2007 trials!
Around 100,000 people were part of the trials then and only a tiny few noticed something suspicious. The ICO refuse to represent those 100,000 or the ones who have strong evidence (and an admission from BT) that their data was processed.
As for the trial tomorrow 10,000 people will switch on to see a nag screen asking them if they want to optin or not. As I say, if a kid is using the computer he / she can click Yes by mistake without the account holder knowing. It's a crazy situation.
Note too that this is cookie based. If you delete / block your webwise cookies you get the nag screen continually.
As I say, these people are now invincible, They can use their ex russian ha c 4 er (please note this is not leet talk - I don't like typing certain words for specific reasons) programmers to write this stuff. And YES the software was written by such people.
they never did in the 2006 and 2007 trials!
Around 100,000 people were part of the trials then and only a tiny few noticed something suspicious. The ICO refuse to represent those 100,000 or the ones who have strong evidence (and an admission from BT) that their data was processed.
As for the trial tomorrow 10,000 people will switch on to see a nag screen asking them if they want to optin or not. As I say, if a kid is using the computer he / she can click Yes by mistake without the account holder knowing. It's a crazy situation.
Note too that this is cookie based. If you delete / block your webwise cookies you get the nag screen continually.
As I say, these people are now invincible, They can use their ex russian ha c 4 er (please note this is not leet talk - I don't like typing certain words for specific reasons) programmers to write this stuff. And YES the software was written by such people.
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@james.miller. Would you tell me your political views, your sexual preferences, tell me everything you typed in your last web based email message?
No. Well if you opt-in you will be telling the phorm servers exactly that.
No. Well if you opt-in you will be telling the phorm servers exactly that.
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@Nix people who do not recognise irony / sarcasm don't anger me that much 
Come on I want to hear more, shall I don my tinfoil hat now?
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1) boris is a legend
2) straight
3) my msn email is spammed to the hilt anyway. i really dont care about phorm unless it gets to the stage where they are monitoring my isp email addy or secured connections.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/05/bt_phorm_trial/
I'd much rather opt out regardless, I don't want all my browsing information going through a third parties servers, and on top of that I block all adverts and scripts on all but a few websites, so there is no benefit anyway to any company.
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Basically seems to be saying if you chose not to use the system, we will still run everything you do through the system, just not send you specific adverts.
I'd much rather opt out regardless, I don't want all my browsing information going through a third parties servers, and on top of that I block all adverts and scripts on all but a few websites, so there is no benefit anyway to any company.
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ok, james that's your choice if you wish. Fair game.
I don't think so, have a look at the diagram on the Wikipedia Page.
It looks like a transparent hardware layer added between your ISP and the site you are connecting to, so I believe blocking specific IPs won't achieve anything.
I'll tell my family to opt out if it comes up.No? Why do you think this?
cos the ISP's can see what they do, and relay to police?
How do you work that one out?
As far as this goes, it monitors you're browsing habits and gives you adverts relating to keywords in you're incoming/outgoing data. Anything other than this would most likely be a breach of the T&C, and they would be in big trouble.
It's really not bt's place to serve up ads, their customers pay them for an internet connection, not ads and tracking, this sort of stuff makes me angry and im not even with bt, its like paying for sky and getting adverts on their channels, fair enough for non sky owned channels but they shouldn't be on skys, bt are taking the ****, and this sort of thing is concerning because you know others might copy!