Gays should carry health warnings.

Slinwagh · 6 Oct 2008 at 13:56

The Rev Dr Peter Mullen said in an blog that homosexuality was "clearly unnatural, a perversion and corruption of natural instincts and affections" and "a cause of fatal disease". He recommended that homosexual practices be discouraged "after the style of warnings on cigarette packets".

He wrote: "Let us make it obligatory for homosexuals to have their backsides tattooed with the slogan SODOMY CAN SERIOUSLY DAMAGE YOUR HEALTH and their chins with FELLATIO KILLS."

In an earlier posting, the Rev Mullen, who is also rector of St Michael's Cornhill and St Sepulchre without Newgate in the City, wrote a poem about the blessing of two gay priests by the Rev Martin Dudley.

The poem begins: "The Bishop of London is in a high huff, Because Dr Dudley has married a puff; And not just one puff - he's married another: Two priests, two puffs and either to other." It concludes: "Of such Dr Dudley a goldmine has found, From shaven-head puftas the nuptial pink pound. "The new Church of England embraces diversity, A fresh modulation on ancient perversity."

The Bishop of London condemned the postings, which have since been taken down, as "highly offensive".
A spokesman said: "While clergy are entitled to their own personal views, we recognise that the content of this text is highly offensive and is in no way reflective of the views of the Diocese of London."
The Rev Mullen, 66, who has written a series of books including The Politically-Correct Gospel, was summoned for a meeting with church officials on Friday and told he could face disciplinary action.

Peter Tatchell of gay rights group OutRage! Demanded that the Rev Mullen resign. He said: "As a chaplain, Rev Mullen ought to be a spiritual guide to all employees of the Stock Exchange. "Given his quite outrageous homophobia, not only would lesbian and gay employees feel unable to approach him but even heterosexual staff would find what he said deeply offensive and off-putting. "He should resign or be sacked. If he was mocking black or Jewish people in a similar vein, the Stock Exchange would instantly remove him and the Church would relieve him of his duties. He is not even fit to be a parish priest."

But the rector insisted that he meant to harm: "I wrote some satirical things on my blog and anybody with an ounce of sense of humour or any understanding of the tradition of English satire would immediately assume that they're light-hearted jokes. I certainly have nothing against homosexuals. Many of my dear friends have been and are of that persuasion. What I have got against them is the militant preaching of homosexuality."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...ould-carry-warning-tattoos-says-chaplain.html

More tolerance I see from the religious circles, what is this guy on?

shauncr91 · 6 Oct 2008 at 13:58

Mental.

Indy500 · 6 Oct 2008 at 13:58

He may have had a legitimate point (STIs are highest in the gay community IIRC) but his wording trashed that completely...

Conscript · 6 Oct 2008 at 14:02

'The Rev Dr Peter Mullen said in an blog that homosexuality was "clearly unnatural, a perversion and corruption of natural instincts and affections"...'

A bit like believing in imaginary friends. Seriously, when are these people going to join us in the 21st century?

z0mbi3 · 6 Oct 2008 at 14:03

So going from that post is one to summize that all gay men engage in doggy style and 69? :eek:

gillywibble · 6 Oct 2008 at 14:04

Clearly a closet pufter himself.

mrk · 6 Oct 2008 at 14:04

So are they going to put the same warnings on some Church Bishops and so on too then or are they exempt ?

Indy500 · 6 Oct 2008 at 14:06

'The Rev Dr Peter Mullen said in an blog that homosexuality was "clearly unnatural, a perversion and corruption of natural instincts and affections"...'

Conscript said:
A bit like believing in imaginary friends. Seriously, when are these people going to join us in the 21st century?

Well done, you are now officially a hypocrite. Funny how this forum constantly goes over the same points about some extremist cleric\priest spouting off while showing the same level of intolerance to anyone who doesn't share their views.

Conscript · 6 Oct 2008 at 14:07

sr4470 said:
'The Rev Dr Peter Mullen said in an blog that homosexuality was "clearly unnatural, a perversion and corruption of natural instincts and affections"...'

Well done, you are now officially a hypocrite. Funny how this forum constantly goes over the same points about some extremist cleric\priest spouting off while showing the same level of intolerance to anyone who doesn't share their views.

And proud of it

Come on now.....religious sectors have been attacking homosexuality for years as a great evil, yet theres no real problem with it. It's not like there's roving packs of homosexuals on our streets degrading the social moral fibre of the country. Just let them get on with it and stop using your ancient religious beliefs to dictate how others live their lives.

Nix · 6 Oct 2008 at 14:07

sr4470 said:
He may have had a legitimate point (STIs are highest in the gay community IIRC) but his wording trashed that completely...

He has a point in terms of health, yes, but he's completely missing another.

Through wanting to 'brand' someone forcibly against their will -- it doesn't matter for what reason -- you're dehumanising them as you're ignoring their wants, needs, and opinions. You're labelling them for ridicule and socially excluding them. Does this man have the right to do this?

The Reverend has literally compared a homosexual's backside to that of a cigarette packet. He's clearly doing it for the attention.

strudey · 6 Oct 2008 at 14:11

sr4470 said:
Well done, you are now officially a hypocrite. Funny how this forum constantly goes over the same points about some extremist cleric\priest spouting off while showing the same level of intolerance to anyone who doesn't share their views.

Could you explain how he's a hypocrite please? In my opinion Conscript was not being intolerant, he was expressing his views on the supernatural.

The good Rev., on the other hand, is demanding things to actually happen to people different to himself. Conscript did no such thing.

Indy500 · 6 Oct 2008 at 14:12

Nix said:
Through wanting to 'brand' someone forcibly against their will -- it doesn't matter for what reason -- you're dehumanising them as you're ignoring their wants, needs, and opinions. You're labelling them for ridicule and socially excluding them. Does this man have the right to do this?

The Reverend has literally compared a homosexual's backside to that of a cigarette packet. He's clearly doing it for the attention.

In that case, the smart thing to do would be to ignore him.

scorza · 6 Oct 2008 at 14:15

Slinwagh said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...ould-carry-warning-tattoos-says-chaplain.html

More tolerance I see from the religious circles, what is this guy on?

Hold on, the leaders of the same religious circle are condemning him.

Good to see the usual hate filled, bigoted comments from OCUK in the rest of the thread :rolleyes:

Indy500 · 6 Oct 2008 at 14:15

strudey said:
Could you explain how he's a hypocrite please? In my opinion Conscript was not being intolerant, he was expressing his views on the supernatural.

The good Rev., on the other hand, is demanding things to actually happen to people different to himself. Conscript did no such thing.

He took a direct quote and changed "gay" for "imaginary friend"...

slambo69 · 6 Oct 2008 at 14:16

Nix said:
He has a point in terms of health, yes, but he's completely missing another.

Through wanting to 'brand' someone forcibly against their will -- it doesn't matter for what reason -- you're dehumanising them as you're ignoring their wants, needs, and opinions. You're labelling them for ridicule and socially excluding them. Does this man have the right to do this?

Yes of course we do, we manage ourselves. Not for Homosexuals in this way though.

Slinwagh · 6 Oct 2008 at 14:18

scorza said:
Hold on, the leaders of the same religious circle are condemning him.

Good to see the usual hate filled, bigoted comments from OCUK in the rest of the thread

You have taken my remark about "religious circles" slightly out of context but I can understand why.

Strife212 · 6 Oct 2008 at 14:19

"I wrote some satirical things on my blog and anybody with an ounce of sense of humour or any understanding of the tradition of English satire would immediately assume that they're light-hearted jokes.

I think its pretty obvious that

He wrote: "Let us make it obligatory for homosexuals to have their backsides tattooed with the slogan SODOMY CAN SERIOUSLY DAMAGE YOUR HEALTH and their chins with FELLATIO KILLS."

Is not meant to be taken seriously.

MooMoo444 · 6 Oct 2008 at 14:20

Next they'll be saying you can't be gay in pubs and other public places :rolleyes:

Slinwagh · 6 Oct 2008 at 14:23

Strife212 said:
I think its pretty obvious that

Is not meant to be taken seriously.

But what he said is not exactly out of touch with what many religious organisations think now is it.

semi-pro waster · 6 Oct 2008 at 14:25

Strife212 said:
I think its pretty obvious that

Is not meant to be taken seriously.

He forgot the smilies. Rookie mistake from the Rev there.

Personally I'm not so convinced he did intend it all as a joke, it seems like a pretty standard way of trying to get out of ill-conceived comments "oh I was just being funny, you people have no sense of humour". Even if we allow that he was just joking it is startlingly bad judgement on his part to post it.