Ebay, paypal dispute (Item Not As Described) "Apparently"

CREATIVE!11 · 10 Oct 2008 at 00:04

ghost101 said:
Nice lie. No unboxed 8800gtx was sold on ebay for £135 inc or exc delivery in the past 2 weeks.

The closest item was one at £136 with a zalman waterblock.

Only 22 8800gtx cards have sold since 25th september.

Link removed

Nice someone looks like bit of an idiot now dont they? i was off 5 quid delivery incl then im right.

toosepin · 10 Oct 2008 at 00:04

sp1ke said:
Sounding silly cause i want to collect my card and not pay 10 quid?

Yes, because that's exactly what you meant when you said:

sp1ke said:
and may pay mr dispute a visit face to face?

muon · 10 Oct 2008 at 00:05

sp1ke said:
link Nice someone looks like bit... at the date :rolleyes:. Also remove link.

CREATIVE!11 · 10 Oct 2008 at 00:05

toosepin said:
Yes, because that's exactly what you meant when you said:

Id collect it, cheaper petrol tbh round fiver maybe, just bit of sarcasm sorry if that goes over your head.

CREATIVE!11 · 10 Oct 2008 at 00:06

ghost101 said:
You said last week. Hence I looked at the past 2 weeks. Look at the date .

Also remove link.

you said NO UNBOXED GTX... its close enough to two weeks. What is big difference? massive price crash in last week? dont try comepensate for looking like an idiot.

Scort · 10 Oct 2008 at 00:06

Well I did say "you either made a mistake, or lied and got caught out", didn't actually call you a liar...

Anyway, case in point, the guy used a way of searching that I'm not aware of; apparently he found your card from the description of the listing, not the title or body text, and the search he apparently used was for “new”. Now, in order for your card to be “new”, it has to be unused:

sp1ke said:
I used it for around 2 weeks before i upgraded to a 4970 and it worked perfect like a charm.

So that’s new off of the list then – are you starting to see his point?

Scort.

muon · 10 Oct 2008 at 00:07

sp1ke said:
you said NO UNBOXED GTX... its close enough to two weeks. What is big difference? massive price crash in last week? dont try comepensate for looking like an idiot.

Look. I searched for this card given what you said. You surprised I didnt find it? read my post exactly. Im not surprised you are in this situation. Clearly have no appreciation of details.

CREATIVE!11 · 10 Oct 2008 at 00:07

Scort said:
Well I did say "you either made a mistake, or lied and got caught out", didn't actually call you a liar...

Anyway, case in point, the guy used a way of searching that I'm not aware of; apparently he found your card from the description of the listing, not the title or body text, and the search he apparently used was for “new”. Now, in order for your card to be “new”, it has to be unused:

So that’s new off of the list then – are you starting to see his point?

Scort.

Yeh i am seeing the point, technicalities though scort. An item which hasnt been used is basically new? like when you test drive a car from the showroom, its been driven. Do they knock off 25% and claim its been used? no.

Luke · 10 Oct 2008 at 00:08

Time to call it quits I feel.

AtreuS · 10 Oct 2008 at 00:08

sp1ke said:
Sounding silly cause i want to collect my card and not pay 10 quid? i probably made a slight mistake but still doesnt change fact it is still basically a new card. and i would appreciate not being branded a liar on an internet forum after providing paste of messages, thats just as silly so please dont be a hypocrite.

But its not new is it. You stated in your original post that you had used it for a few weeks, then later claim that you literally just "tested" it.

True he should have read the full description but conversely you listed it under a new item listing when its clearly not brand new, by your own admission its been used.

Clearly you have your own definition of "new" that is somewhat at odds to what other people would consider as "new".

[TW]Fox · 10 Oct 2008 at 00:08

sp1ke said:
new

Think yourself lucky he isnt after a full refund, it quite blatantly isnt 'New' is it?

CREATIVE!11 · 10 Oct 2008 at 00:09

emailiscrap said:
Time to call it quits I feel.

Yep, ill wait for him to escalate, i havn't exactly recieved much help here aside bashing which is pretty pathetic to be quite honest, i only asked for a few positive opinions as to which what is going to happen now if it is escalated.

CREATIVE!11 · 10 Oct 2008 at 00:10

[TW]Fox;12665247 said:
Think yourself lucky he isnt after a full refund, it quite blatantly isnt 'New' is it?

As i said ill give a full refund to be honest. I havnt commented how much he wants knocked off but let me tell you that alone will mean you are pretty much only paying for packaging.

Ill offer full refund to him if things dont change.

[TW]Fox · 10 Oct 2008 at 00:12

I think it might be a good idea if you dont use Ebay again. It's very easy to use but it seems to be a bit above you.

Hint: If you have used an item, it is no longer new.

titchard · 10 Oct 2008 at 00:13

sp1ke said:
Yep, ill wait for him to escalate, i havn't exactly recieved much help here aside bashing which is pretty pathetic to be quite honest, i only asked for a few positive opinions as to which what is going to happen now if it is escalated.

You wanted us to back you up on something - but are annoyed we don't agree with you?

I think you just got caught out and are now trying to backpedal - everyone here is right it is a used card, it is not new - new is sealed, not tested for a few weeks.

Rich

Totality · 10 Oct 2008 at 00:13

ghost101 said:
Look. I searched for this card given what you said. You surprised I didnt find it? read my post exactly. Im not surprised you are in this situation. Clearly have no appreciation of details.

Lol you've been owned so stop trying to claw your way back. You're both arguing over a trivial point and looking like idiots!! :rolleyes:

Scort · 10 Oct 2008 at 00:13

sp1ke said:
Yeh i am seeing the point, technicalities though scort. An item which hasnt been used is basically new? like when you test drive a car from the showroom, its been driven. Do they knock off 25% and claim its been used? no.

Technicalities they may be, but it’s these technicalities that will probably be your undoing, if eBay or PP bothers to help, thus you ‘lose’.

If something is hardly used and in great condition, then it is “like new” (notice the key word there), now, from my limited used of eBay I only recall seeing options for new or used – your card firmly falls in the latter, that’s just logical. You can then use the body of your listing to tell people how great the condition is etc.

Scort.

CREATIVE!11 · 10 Oct 2008 at 00:13

[TW]Fox;12665266 said:
I think it might be a good idea if you dont use Ebay again. It's very easy to use but it seems to be a bit above you.

Hint: If you have used an item, it is no longer new.

A bit above me, granted aswell coming from someone also quite largely misinformed this has been happening a lot recently, ebay has fallen a bit from grace. I advise you to do some googling or it seems it may be a bit above you too.

*Chris · 10 Oct 2008 at 00:14

You miss-led him and you know it, take it back, refund it and relist it properly and honestly.

You expect decent feedback when you ignore vital things people look for when buying, imo that's ridiculous (especially when it says "new" at the top). People always like to buy things with the retail box, etc.

muon · 10 Oct 2008 at 00:14

Totality said:
Lol you've been owned so stop trying to claw your way back. You're both arguing over a trivial point and looking like idiots!!

What are you talking about? My search was limited to the past 2 weeks. That card didnt show up because of that. Thats the fleabay default setting as well. I didnt look beyond that because he said his friend sold it last week.