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4870x2 or the gtx280

That system must fly with your cpu clock and gpu clocks. Not sure why many people say the x2 has eratic performance as from all the reviews i have seen that pairs the x2 with a decent overclocked cpu it beats the gtx280 in every game or equals it. In crysis/warhead they seem to share honours depending on the resolution. When the x2 beats the gtx280 it really beats it pretty easily sometimes nearly being 100% faster.
 
easyrider said:
I wouldn'r buy a 280 as its 240 quid and to close in pricing to an X2 so I would buy an X2 .
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easyrider said:
X2's are available for much less making the 240 quid GTX 280 redundant.
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easyrider said:
Paying an extra 70 for a 280 is simply not worth it over a 4870.
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easyrider said:
You might aswell pay the extra 70 again and get an X2.
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easyrider said:
The 280 is 70 quid cheaper than a x2 and yet 70 quid more expensive than 4870.
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easyrider said:
I would feel duped laying down 240 on a 280 when for not much more I could cream it with an X2
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Are you trying to convince us - or yourself? Saying the same thing over, and over, and over. Not just over multiple posts - but the very same post!?!

You also contradict yourself a few time, but I'll overlook that. Seem to be quite the excited chappy today.
 
TheRealDeal said:
That system must fly with your cpu clock and gpu clocks. Not sure why many people say the x2 has eratic performance as from all the reviews i have seen that pairs the x2 with a decent overclocked cpu it beats the gtx280 in every game or equals it. In crysis/warhead they seem to share honours depending on the resolution. When the x2 beats the gtx280 it really beats it pretty easily sometimes nearly being 100% faster.
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That would be because reviews don't check actual gameplay performance, they check overall. Highs and lows are softened out meaning the graphs show amazing performance - but actual gameplay isn't. For example in Grid, the framerate will plummet to a slideshow when dust is kicked up - but at all other times the FPS will easily be above 100fps.

Its the same how if you link two 7900 GTXs together you'll get a card that is much faster than a single 7900GTX, and in benchies could reach a good 80-90% boost. However, in actual use, the difference will be much smaller due to microstutter.
 
Boogle said:
That would be because reviews don't check actual gameplay performance, they check overall. Highs and lows are softened out meaning the graphs show amazing performance - but actual gameplay isn't. For example in Grid, the framerate will plummet to a slideshow when dust is kicked up - but at all other times the FPS will easily be above 100fps.

Its the same how if you link two 7900 GTXs together you'll get a card that is much faster than a single 7900GTX, and in benchies could reach a good 80-90% boost. However, in actual use, the difference will be much smaller due to microstutter.
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Indeed, this was fairly common knowledge when SLI and Crossfire was introduced, a single GPU can and oftern does provide a more consistant gaming experience over a dual GPU solution that appears to be faster in benchmarks, but this seems to have been conveniently forgotten.

Check the latest [H] comparation between the GTX280 and 4870X2 in Stalker, it was noted quite a few time sthat the GTX280 provided the most consistant gameplay experence, the 4870X2 got better results in the benchmarks but the framerate varations caused the game to stutter.
 
Boogle said:
Are you trying to convince us - or yourself? Saying the same thing over, and over, and over. Not just over multiple posts - but the very same post!?!.
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I'm discussing GFX in a GFX forum.

You also contradict yourself a few time, but I'll overlook that. Seem to be quite the excited chappy today.
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Please highlight the contradictions.Not being funny but I was confusing myself in that post:p
 
Boogle said:
That would be because reviews don't check actual gameplay performance, they check overall. Highs and lows are softened out meaning the graphs show amazing performance - but actual gameplay isn't. For example in Grid, the framerate will plummet to a slideshow when dust is kicked up - but at all other times the FPS will easily be above 100fps.

Its the same how if you link two 7900 GTXs together you'll get a card that is much faster than a single 7900GTX, and in benchies could reach a good 80-90% boost. However, in actual use, the difference will be much smaller due to microstutter.
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How can this be as in lots of reviews i have seen the min frame rate of the x2 can be nearly double what the gtx280 has. The simple fact of the matter is an x2 usually has much better min fps than a gtx280 so must have a smoother gameplay experience especially when the gtx280 is dropping below 60 and the x2 is not. The way i also see it is if the average frame rate is much higher than a gtx280 and the min is much higher how can the gameplay experience not be smoother. This will vary in different games but from what i have seen in the reviews that show min frame rates over lots of games the x2 really kills the gtx280 in most games. The benfits of the x2s power imo is worth it as in most games you will see the difference and the quality. In a few games this may not be true but i could live with that knowing in a lot more games i can max them and still play the game at top frames. Atm i am happy with my 3870 as i only play eve online atm so will not be looking at any of the new cards. I am looking to play cod 5, farcry 2 and a few other games coming soon or early next year so i will buy then i think hopefully even better cards out by then.
 
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The Asgard said:
I don't see any difference in texture quality.

Do you have any images showing the difference?
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Sorry Asgard I no longer have the 4870 to compare texture quality differences. However it could be quite possible it just these old eyes on the blink. But the textures always looked sharper and less blockier close up compared to the nvidia equivalents.

Although at the time when playing 2142 the 4870 use to wind me up no end with the way it rendered shadows on that game it looked like lego bricks.
 
Why is everyone so uptight about the 280 Vs the 4870? Both cards are really good - to the OP, just pick the card that has the best sustained FPS for the games you play. I picked the 4870 because it owns COD4. I think if i was really into crysis i would get a 280GTX instead.
 
The Asgard said:
How are you measuring that? Is that peak, average? Whats the min FPS?
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As you hav'nt answered my previous question, maybe you'll answer this one. Why did you ask the above question in the first place ? The OP of that post was probably being very consevative as it happens. Does it not fit in with your preconcieved ideas ? so it's best just to ignore it is it ?
 
Even though I don't own either, I think I'd go for the GTX 280.

I have had 3870's in crossfire for a short period of time and it was hardly in improvement on my 8800gtx.

I seemed to have a lot of stuttering is some games and that just put me off of it.

I will how ever wait till all those problems are resolved before I go dual GPU again.

Hopefully in the near future the HYDRA Engine for multi GPU's will be implemented and we don't have to use crappy SLI or Crosfire. :D
 
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