Piracy- it's killing PC gaming

Well that was based on a fairly successful series of books. ALthough yes that is a good example of a game that has got past it. It didn't sell that well though did it? I haven't seen any sales figures from it unfortunately.
 
rjkoneill said:
case 1 - im not an idiot - a copied game is a lost sale that could have been reinstated into an industry
i understand that nobody in the world has that much free cash - but piracy is just daft
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Case 1 - Said pirate may never have bought the game in the first place. However, they may do after playing it. Point null.

Your tone towards other people also makes you look a bit sad. You're massively over reacting in this thread. I suggest you nip out and purchase a game to relax.
 
I had a thought today, is the advent of cloud computing going to be the saviour of pc gameing? It would be next to impossible to pirate a game in any small timescale if content is accessed remotely as its used, you would have to slowly cache all the content. It would kill zero day piracy stone dead which is where the real financial damage is done. Just a thought.
 
if they stopped just putting out so much shizzle and made pricing more attractive they would sell lots more.the fact is they dont put the effort into pc games cause theres not enough profit compared to consoles.which you can hardly blame really can you.if you were told hay heres 1 million quid or 50 million you deal with the 50 as the priority first.

pc games are the minority so just get on with it.let them just whine about piracy as they empty wheel barrows of cash into there swimming pools.seriously i dont know why im even responding to the piracy bs that happens every two minutes on every forum in the world.

they are making more than enough money and the decent games are being brought by the bucket load.at the end of the day it wont be stopped, everyone knows this so lets just go play some games.

keep arguing amongst yourselfs while they sit there reading this laughing lighting there cuban cigars with 50 pound notes . just lol
 
It is a bit of both to be fair, there are pirates, however console gamers are easier to please. The bar is very high, console games are throwaway pieces of junk half the time but people still buy em.
 
I don't think piracy is killing anything. People would buy games if they were any good, PC gamers generally have higher expectations than their console friends, but there has been so much rubbish recently. Good games always sell. :)
 
Shamikebab said:
Well that was based on a fairly successful series of books. ALthough yes that is a good example of a game that has got past it. It didn't sell that well though did it? I haven't seen any sales figures from it unfortunately.
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It sold pretty well. Last December figures were out saying it'd sold over 1 million copies, and lets be honest, almost no one had read the original books as until VERY recently they were only available in Polish, followed by a few central european languages and very recently english.

N4G.com said:
Cdprojekt chief designer Michael madej reported that the witcher has sold 100,000 copies in poland and more than a million copies worldwide

'For Polish readers, Andrzej Sapkowski and his The Witcher epic, are household names. The game hardly needs promotion either here or in Russia, the Czech Republic and Slovakia, where Sapkowski is widely read. But in the West he has been little known. As part of the promotion campaign, a collection of Sapkowski's short stories about the witcher was translated into English. Signals on sales reaching the CD Projekt studio show the game is doing extremely well.

"For example is the second best-selling game in Germany. It is only a PC and it is able to compete with games selling on different platforms, like consoles and play stations. We are in the first ten or even five best selling games in Great Britain and in all countries in Europe and America. In Poland, our success it is unbelievable, because in the first three days we sold more copies than some titles sell in ten years."'
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Consider what it admits about the language barriers, I'd say thats a game that proved quality can equal sales, I'd imagine it's sold over 2mil copies by now.
 
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I'm sure most people like to try the game before they go out and spend £25/30 on something they don't even know if they'll like.

Sometimes Demo's aren't available, piracy is the only option.
 
Hellsmk2 said:
Case 1 - Said pirate may never have bought the game in the first place. However, they may do after playing it. Point null.

Your tone towards other people also makes you look a bit sad. You're massively over reacting in this thread. I suggest you nip out and purchase a game to relax.
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I dont really buy the "pirates buy games after downloading them".

I know ive never bought anything on the strength of having downloaded it first.
 
Metalface Mark said:
I dont really buy the "pirates buy games after downloading them".

I know ive never bought anything on the strength of having downloaded it first.
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I have. I didn't buy the first STALKER initially, and there was no demo. After "trying" it, I liked it so much I went out and bought it. The same goes for the game "SpellForce: The Order of Dawn". I had never even heard of it until I saw it up for download. So I grabbed it and liked it so much that to this day I have spent nearly £200 on the entire series, including collectors editions and merch. It's probably one of my favourite games ever, and I would have never even heard of it if it hadn't been pirated.

I know that this is an isolated incident, but I am sure there are others out there who have had similar experiences. I disagree with piracy at heart, but I also disagree with developers being dishonest about their products and providing no demos.
 
MystaEB said:
I have. I didn't buy the first STALKER initially, and there was no demo. After "trying" it, I liked it so much I went out and bought it. The same goes for the game "SpellForce: The Order of Dawn". I had never even heard of it until I saw it up for download. So I grabbed it and liked it so much that to this day I have spent nearly £200 on the entire series, including collectors editions and merch. It's probably one of my favourite games ever, and I would have never even heard of it if it hadn't been pirated.

I know that this is an isolated incident, but I am sure there are others out there who have had similar experiences. I disagree with piracy at heart, but I also disagree with developers being dishonest about their products and providing no demos.
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See, i buy a lot of games, more than most i guess (ive got about 30 games in my box here that ive bought this year, not counting another 10-15 ive traded). Im a great customer for the industry as a whole.

Really the industry needs to change, theres some great online games services now, if everyone paid a flat fee of say £30 a month, and could play all the legal new games they wanted, it would drastically reduce piracy.
 
Metalface Mark said:
Really the industry needs to change, theres some great online games services now, if everyone paid a flat fee of say £30 a month, and could play all the legal new games they wanted, it would drastically reduce piracy.
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and would massively increase the amount of games/developers as everyone would want a piece of that pie.

but whats to stop them just churning out pure crap if they are to get paid regardless ? and that would mean quantity over quality pays.
 
Indeed, piracy is on consoles, notably the Wii and Xbox360, however for the Xbox360 users have to extract the CD Drive, mess with firmwares etc.. and remove the warranty from their only component, the console.

On PC's users simply install a pirated copy no differently to a standard game. That alone is why PC piracy is far more rife, many users wouldn't know what to do with Xbox360, many more aren't willing to lose their warranty, there is much more to lose doing it on consoles.
 
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