Joe won't ever do a rematch he saw how tough it was to beat hopkins in the las vegas he wouldn't take the risk. He also said he doesn't do rematches, so its highly unlikely, but hey its boxing money talks.
Kelly "The Ghost" Pavlik VS Bernard "The Executioner" Hopkins **SPOILERS**
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Joe won't ever do a rematch he saw how tough it was to beat hopkins in the las vegas he wouldn't take the risk. He also said he doesn't do rematches, so its highly unlikely, but hey its boxing money talks.
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I honestly can't remember the fight properly, but wasn't it a fairly bogus decision with Calzaghe mostly just slapping and getting the decision on number of shots rather than quality. I could be thinking of a different Calzaghe fight but think it might have been that, whoever he was fighting was simply better and making great shots but Calzaghe simply hit more but far to many were slaps and should not in any way of counted. ASsuming that was the Hopkins fight I agree it would be unlikely he'll go for a rematch as fair judges would likely give it to Hopkins and Hopkins arguable looks fitter than in the previous couple years(was the hopkings/joe fight sometime like a year ago?).
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It was in April and Calzaghe's slaps did more harm than a leading hug from Hopkins.
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The Calzaghe V Hopkins fight was a horrible fight in all honesty and Hopkins spent the whole fight spoiling. Calzaghe was about the only one trying to fight.
I'm not sure Joe has that much out and out punching power anymore the dodgy hands have probably stopped him going all out and these days he relys on out working his opponents.
I'm not sure Joe has that much out and out punching power anymore the dodgy hands have probably stopped him going all out and these days he relys on out working his opponents.
No calslappy's slaps done no harm what so ever to Hopkins. Hopkins hit Calzaghe with more cleaner hits then slappy did Hopkins. As Hopkins said post fight there was no marks on his face and for someone who claims to throw over a 1000 punches (slaps) per fight wouldn't you'd have thought his faced would have been more banged up....no hopkins has a fair point there.
Hopkins didn't do himself any favours by play acting and time wasting, hugging to much and I actually think his stupidity lost him that fight. Joe did flail his arms about like a spaz most of the fight but to be fair to the bloke he was the one trying taking the fight to Hopkins especially in the later rounds. But that is when Joe normally comes on strongest. Joe does deserve some credit for his stamina and energy he maintains throughout a fight, his work rate is second to none.
Hopkins definitely landing the cleaner punches though, i have the fight and i can honestly say joe prolly landed only 2 punches that caught Hopkins cleanly.
Yep it sounds like the same fight. But it depends on what the judges looking for, Joe calslappy looked the one trying to bring the fight to Hopkins. I mean the question is what do you judge in fght, the fighting looking the more busy i.e attacking more or the person who is landing the more punches. In vegus its been widely publisized that the judges prefer attacking fighters to though who are countering.
Hopkins had the same situation with Taylor fights, they were split decisions and he could have one both.
Also Styles make fights.
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Maybe people wouldn't mind Bernard Hopkins if he fought more like he did in the Pavlik fight. I really don't know how people can buy tickets to a traditional Hopkins fight. The guy is so boring to watch.
I do give him credit for the Pavlik fight and hope he fights with the same willingness in his next fight.
I do give him credit for the Pavlik fight and hope he fights with the same willingness in his next fight.
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frankly he was great in this fight, and I think he is just taking it more seriously. The fitness levels he showed and the spurts of heavy punching even in the 12th show that more than anything the previous few fights have been massively effected by lack of fitness.
I know its a, well not tough call for me, the better boxing no matter the "style" should win. If they are equal then bring in things like aggressiveness and so on. i think the early rounds Hopkins put in some very good punches but his fitness more than anything caused the holding and at 42/43 and not in shape I'm not sure you can blame him. The credibility of Joe for being a true world class boxer(slapper) should have been in being able to utterly demolish an old guy in no where near good shape. He went with slapping mostly because Hopkins was still defending well. I remember most of it now, I do also recall the complete lack of any signs of wear and tear other than his own fitness. You shouldn't get credited a win because you're fitter and thats what that fight felt like to me.
THis fight was great, though Pavlik just didn't seem awake, didn't even really seem to be trying. Hopkins movement was fantastic and missed so many of Pavliks shots in the first few rounds Pav seemed to have all but given up trying. It seemed very likely Hopkins could have ended him easily really anytime from round 4-12 had he wanted to but I think he was unsure how much it would take and unsure if he would tire too much and leave himself open later. In hindsight I think at any time he could have unloaded for a full 3minutes and ended the fight easily.
I know its a, well not tough call for me, the better boxing no matter the "style" should win. If they are equal then bring in things like aggressiveness and so on. i think the early rounds Hopkins put in some very good punches but his fitness more than anything caused the holding and at 42/43 and not in shape I'm not sure you can blame him. The credibility of Joe for being a true world class boxer(slapper) should have been in being able to utterly demolish an old guy in no where near good shape. He went with slapping mostly because Hopkins was still defending well. I remember most of it now, I do also recall the complete lack of any signs of wear and tear other than his own fitness. You shouldn't get credited a win because you're fitter and thats what that fight felt like to me.
THis fight was great, though Pavlik just didn't seem awake, didn't even really seem to be trying. Hopkins movement was fantastic and missed so many of Pavliks shots in the first few rounds Pav seemed to have all but given up trying. It seemed very likely Hopkins could have ended him easily really anytime from round 4-12 had he wanted to but I think he was unsure how much it would take and unsure if he would tire too much and leave himself open later. In hindsight I think at any time he could have unloaded for a full 3minutes and ended the fight easily.
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Many people say Hopkins is a boring fighter but the way he works the ring is a thing of beauty, he made Pavlik look like an absolute novice who didn't know how to throw a punch.
Another thing I was impressed by is Hopkins' handspeed as it is truely outstanding for a man of his age. To be honest i've never seen a fighter box a better 12 rounds. He had to fight it spurts which can be expected for a 43 year old, but when he let the punches go they usually cause some damage.
Another thing I was impressed by is Hopkins' handspeed as it is truely outstanding for a man of his age. To be honest i've never seen a fighter box a better 12 rounds. He had to fight it spurts which can be expected for a 43 year old, but when he let the punches go they usually cause some damage.
