CRYSIS OC Whats going on here then!!!

crsnwby

crsnwby

crsnwby

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First up heres what i have...

Q6600
Abit IX48 Hotfoot
4GB DDR3 1333
8800 GTS 640 - (dont worry my 4870 1GB is coming tomorrow)

My new PC I thought I would benchmark see whats happening in terms of Crysis frames and my overclock...

So my Q6600 benched at 3.2Ghz in Crysis at a startling average of 11.78fps at 1920x1080 Enthusiast.

Then I rebooted put it to stock and ran it again. This time results came back with a whopping 11.65fps at 2.4Ghz.

So the overclock of the CPU by 800Mhz gives little to no increase in games or am I missing somthing here..

Overclocking seems to be pointless for me
 
I was overclocking my chip yday and kept checking using the warhead benchmark program and saw next to no improvement, yet if i alterd the gfx card slightly thats where the improvements were!
 
I suped up my GFX speeds with Ntune adding quite a lot on the sliders and it gives me less performance... this OC crap is pants...
 
lol i also noticed that between 4xaa and 8xaa my fps went up!
btw with my card (the same one yo're getting 2moz!) i get 19.53 fps 1920x1200 dx10 enthusiast
hopefull that will help you through the night!
 
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You are'nt goint to see a improvement by overclocking the cpu in Crysis as it is not cpu dependant. Between stock (2.4ghz) and 3.6Ghz i see an extra 0.1fps. You get the gains from clocking the graphics card. However, clocking the cpu will increase the minimum fps. By clocking my E6600 from 2.4 to 3.6Ghz i see an increase from 17.12 fps minimum to 27.57fps minimum. The max and the average stays the same though.
 
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@ OP What you are seeing is a GPU bottleneck. No matter how high you clock your CPU the GPU simply cannot keep up with it.

You will rarely see an increase in FPS with a highly clocked CPU with a High res game or benchie with x4AA+ enabled. Most GPUs will bottleneck. This is why in reviews they always bench the CPU in games at low res i.e. to remove the bottleneck.

The 'sweet' clock is around 3.2GHz dual or quad. Any higher is usually does not result in higher FPS.
 
It has been said before but CPU clocking will not effect your crysis scores unless you're using some dual cores. a 2.4 quad will find crysis easy, the hardware that will be hit by crysis is graphics and memory timings...
 
Big.Wayne said:
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Nice to see you are being patient! :o
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I repeat this is pants.... whats the point of paying 200 notes for water cooling to overclock your CPU for the end result to be 0.1 frames increase in games?

Luckily I havnt done water I did 15 quid on air to find out its a waste of money...;)
 
all u need is like a q6600 at stock, anything above that is useless in crysis, its all gpu power from there. i get like 2 fps diff between 2.8ghz and 4.0ghz on my q9550

you will see a big improvement in other games and tests. best one is prob 3dmark, use it to test your new OC :)
 
crsnwby said:
I repeat this is pants.... whats the point of paying 200 notes for water cooling to overclock your CPU for the end result to be 0.1 frames increase in games?
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The point of water-cooling a good PC is that it can be overclocked so it runs faster. Unfortunately you've built a dragster with a souped up motor and you're now complaining it doesn't go around corners any better than before. You need to upgrade the chassis for better handling.

Try benchmarking with SuperPi or another CPU limited benchmark and see what increases you get. The OP was trying to get an improvement in a GPU limited game with a graphics card that's not really up to playing it anyway.


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Luckily I havnt done water I did 15 quid on air to find out its a waste of money...;)
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Overclocking can be done with a stock cooler if you're prepared to compromise on noise and accept that the system is going to run hotter. Many people are uncomfortable with a hot-running CPU and spend money to reassure themselves. All my machines run 'hot' (>70C core temperature under load) because I like the quiet and I'm not fussed about that aspect of my e-penis.
 
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I repeat this is pants.... whats the point of paying 200 notes for water cooling to overclock your CPU for the end result to be 0.1 frames increase in games?

Luckily I havnt done water I did 15 quid on air to find out its a waste of money...;)
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Err, you missing the point. Your graphics card is way behind your cpu in terms of balance especially at 1920 x 1200 res.

An anology would be putting a ferrari engine in a 1.1 ford fiesta and not changing the gearbox and then claiming the maximum speed is still only 95 mph due to the gearbox ratio in top gear and then claiming the performance is pants and its a waste of money.

You really need a new graphics card to make your cpu shine. With my quad at 1680 x 1050 in crysis with my overclocked 4870 I do see a considerable difference in framerates as I overclock my quad from stock.

Hell, 4870x2 are reported at been held back by the cpu unless you are running it at 4Ghz in certain games.

Moral of the story: Never just upgrade one part of your system and expect vast increases. A system will always be as slow as the weakest item in it. So don't worry. Re try the results when your 4870 arrives.
 
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I had a the same situation a while back, any cpu overclock gave me no performance increases whatsoever in crysis or warhead, only the gpu overclocks affected the performance.
On a side note, what games do recieve a performance boost when overclocking the cpu?
 
pieman109 said:
I had a the same situation a while back, any cpu overclock gave me no performance increases whatsoever in crysis or warhead, only the gpu overclocks affected the performance.
On a side note, what games do recieve a performance boost when overclocking the cpu?
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Depends on the resolution, aa applied, graphics card vs cpu etc.

A beast of a graphics card still needs a beast of a cpu to feed it the info.

Not many games do scale with cpu overclock:

Here's a good article:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/cpu-scaling-in-games-with-quad-core-processors/4

Problem is they only used an 8800 Ultra. There are more differences with the latest high end graphics cards. However, notice that World In Conflict is the only one which does make a difference at high res. All the other games are pretty much flatline. Microsoft Flight X is another one.

But with the majority of games once the cpu is at 3Ghz, you will see little framerate difference with normal graphics cards. You need a GTX280, 4870x2 or 48xx xfire setup to see any substantial gains in cpu overclock.

On a personal note I gained a couple of fps in crysis overclocking my cpu to 3.8Ghz. Not a lot I know, but when you are only scoring 30fps, 2fps is a good 6-7% gain.
 
Supreme Commander benifits very well from high clocks, and lots of cores :), and not so much from GPU, unless you run it on a 7300GS like i used to :p
 
Seems OP didn't really think about what overclocking would do prior to engaging in it.

A quick look at the Crysis benchmark scores in the GPU thread would have shown you there is very little tangible difference (in fact, it's actually only statistical) in PCs with wildly different core clocks with the same graphics cards. The only real differences crop up when the GPU is spanked within an inch of its life.

For CPU-bound games, overclocking the CPU yields massive benefits, whereas overclocking the GPU will do very little.
 
so has the op tried it with his new card

or is he not prepared to come back to the 'i told you so' posts?
 
Not as embarrased as I would be admintting im from barney!!!

Half way thru I came back with I told u so posts. The GFX did make a difference but then I OC'ed again from 2.4 to 3.3 on the CPU and got .01 increase in frames...

so again..... I REPEAT OC IS POINTLESS.

p.s. im running a 4870 1024mb and its OC'ed aswell and guess what.... ITS ALSO POINTLESS!!!!
 
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