Bell/Ring wire

mikex · 30 Oct 2008 at 01:34

Hello guys, i'm wondering if my router is not plugged in to the master socket and I remove my bell/ring wire on the master socket, will this help at all?

AntiHeroUK · 30 Oct 2008 at 01:40

Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand :confused:

mikex · 30 Oct 2008 at 01:45

AntiHeroUK said:
Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand

I am having issues with very low noise margin on my line. I read that removing the outdated bell/ring wire can help. I'm plugged into an extension right now instead of the master socket and i'm wondering if removing the wire on the master socket would do anything at all.

AntiHeroUK · 30 Oct 2008 at 01:46

Ah I understand now, but I can't offer any advice as I know very little in that area. Hope you get the help you need though

mikex · 30 Oct 2008 at 07:14

well I bit the bullet and went ahead and removed the ring wire and guess what, noise margin went from 1/-1 to 13!!! winner

tolien · 30 Oct 2008 at 09:35

With the same sync rate?

mikex · 30 Oct 2008 at 13:32

yep tolien, getting max sync rate

Yamahahahahaha · 30 Oct 2008 at 13:43

Good stuff.

The reason the ring wire causes that is because it creates a loop, which picks up RF waves.
Disconnecting those always removes a lot of noise from a line :]

Si MPS · 30 Oct 2008 at 14:59

get yourself an iPlate. they're tops.

morfmedia · 30 Oct 2008 at 20:51

I tried this one tonight with no joy, removed the Orange/White one ok but if I removed the White/Orange one my router would just stick at negotiating for a long period and I don't have time to test and see if it will eventually connect.

Anyone have any ideas? Should I leave it longer to negotiate or do I require a 3rd cable for some reason?!?!

celliott · 30 Oct 2008 at 20:54

You should have three wires in total on your faceplate:

- Green
- White
- Orange

Disconnect the Orange (Bell Wire) cable leaving the Green and White connected.

morfmedia · 30 Oct 2008 at 21:50

As per here (http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/socket.htm) I had 4, if I disconnected the earth my router just went to negotiating for several minutes. When I reconnected that cable it connected to my ISP straight away

GSDog · 30 Oct 2008 at 22:21

Removing the bell wire made a dramatic difference with my line a year or two back. My sync was all over the place between 6-8MB and my noise margin was also very poor.
I removed the bell wire and it's now been syncing at 8128 24/7 with a rock solid noise margin.

pennywise · 30 Oct 2008 at 23:50

Si MPS said:
get yourself an iPlate. they're tops.

I'm pretty sure this does the same job as removing the bellwire, without actually removing it.

morfmedia · 31 Oct 2008 at 08:34

I'm currently locked on at 8Mbit, however I'm on the Sky 16mbit Max package. Are there any special requirements for this, having something reconnected etc or I should be able to get this on my line? Are there any easy ways of getting BT out to improve your line stats such as an old trick like turning the gain up at their end etc? Cheers

tolien · 31 Oct 2008 at 17:28

If your line's capable of it, and you're actually on ADSL2+, you'll get up to 16Mbps.
There's no "tricks" to get more, unless moving house counts.

morfmedia · 1 Nov 2008 at 11:28

Is there any way to get BT out to try and improve the line stats then?

I think the line gain "trick" may have been back in the 56K days...

tolien · 1 Nov 2008 at 14:36

Not unless there's an actual fault.

Si MPS · 1 Nov 2008 at 20:07

pennywise said:
I'm pretty sure this does the same job as removing the bellwire, without actually removing it.

it filters so much more. i don't have a ring wire in, but managed to pull 2mb more sync out of the line.