Poll: McCain Vs Obama - Forum Vote
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According to his own words, Obama is also Superman and his main weakness is that he is 'perhaps a little too awesome'.
(That was from some charity dinner where both candidates took the the mickey out of themselves and each other before someone goes and misquotes me...)
(That was from some charity dinner where both candidates took the the mickey out of themselves and each other before someone goes and misquotes me...)
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Post all the pics you want, it's not my problem they're poor. I worked hard for my money, I'm not about to give it away.
I would vote for Obama.
Both of them have their faults, but the idea of Sarah Palin being President-in-waiting scares the **** out of me. However, the idea of having to listen to her voice on repeated TV news stories beyond tomorrow makes me think about going postal on the TV set, or myself.
Both of them have their faults, but the idea of Sarah Palin being President-in-waiting scares the **** out of me. However, the idea of having to listen to her voice on repeated TV news stories beyond tomorrow makes me think about going postal on the TV set, or myself.
McCain wants to lower tax by less than 1% for 60% of the country with higher reductions for people with much greater incomes i.e those that can afford to pay more. In a country where the minimum wage is barely £4 an hour tax breaks are needed for the low earners.
Other than that, unless your family income is over $600,000 a year (which I doubt) Obamas policies aren't actually going to affect you in any way.
Anyway, Obama/Biden for me. Palin in power is a worrying thought.
Lesser of Two Evils:
I am quite sure that a "moderate" republican party wouldnt be all to bad but when the strings are being pulled by bible bashing, bigoted, fundamentalist christian religious warmoungering nut cases then no way...
I also dont agree with a lot of what obarma says.. but in comparision its a lot better than the message the republicans give off
I am quite sure that a "moderate" republican party wouldnt be all to bad but when the strings are being pulled by bible bashing, bigoted, fundamentalist christian religious warmoungering nut cases then no way...
I also dont agree with a lot of what obarma says.. but in comparision its a lot better than the message the republicans give off
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Why do you keep hampering on about the spreading of wealth policy? It’s not spreading everyone’s wealth with everyone else. If you earn $250k a year then you pay a bit more tax that trickles downward. That’s like $900 a year for these high earners.
Also big companies won’t get tax breaks and such for getting their services outside of the USA meaning tax paying Americans can live a little better knowing their tax dollars are being used for something better than current.
If you don’t earn 250k a year you won’t be complaining. And if you do then you should not be complaining unless you’re a greedy **** who can’t bear to lose $900 a year in extra taxes.
This will no doubt stabilise economy and promote growth because jobs and services will be kept within US shores. If economy improves then so does everything else and people are more happy.
Why do you keep hampering on about the spreading of wealth policy? It’s not spreading everyone’s wealth with everyone else. If you earn $250k a year then you pay a bit more tax that trickles downward. That’s like $900 a year for these high earners.
Also big companies won’t get tax breaks and such for getting their services outside of the USA meaning tax paying Americans can live a little better knowing their tax dollars are being used for something better than current.
If you don’t earn 250k a year you won’t be complaining. And if you do then you should not be complaining unless you’re a greedy **** who can’t bear to lose $900 a year in extra taxes.
This will no doubt stabilise economy and promote growth because jobs and services will be kept within US shores. If economy improves then so does everything else and people are more happy.
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edit* actually no, you rent a house from your parents, yep you must work really hard.
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You have had a privileged life a loving family and a very good education, how can you even think to say that you are better than "poor" people.
Because the McCain camp have associated this policy with Socialism. It's a deeply-held view among a considerable number of Americans (formed mostly during the Cold War) that Socialism is an 'axis of evil', one step away from Communism.
In truth, Obama is very far from being a Socialist, but the mere suggestion of something that could even be considered a Socialist policy sends some scampering for their shotguns. Europeans tend not to 'get' this, because our experiences with Socialism tend to be rather more based on fact.
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Exactly because of the reasons you just said. He assumes that the poor are poor because they are lazy, as the priviledged have for time immemorial. It is quite possible that he's never spoken to someone who is trapped in poverty. Fortunately he is a dying breed.
Probably because it is a socialist idea.
To be honest, our experiences with socialism are far from ideal and the culture of dependancy it creates is really not something a nation should want to take on. UK socialism is pretty flawed all in all.
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After watching this thing unfold since last year, it's Obama all the way.
If you watch McCain's speech, any speech there is a common theme to them. He eithers:-
1 - Attack Obama's economic policy, and any agenda
2 - Says he has more experience
He doesn't really tell you what he will do, he doesn't focus on himself and when he does, he only gives the briefest detail. He'll say under his plan he will create jobs, but he doesn't tell you how. He will tell you how his saved congress $6million 15 years ago, but he doesn't tell you how he will save the current financial housing market. Then before long he will attack Obama again. The guy can't focus on the issue in question, to make people want to elect him, not want to hear what he doesn't like about the other guy. Tell us why we should vote for him, not why we shouldn't vote for the other candidate.
Obama on the other hand, his speeches have all been really calm and eloquant. He actually lists points on how he tackles each particular problem, from medical, education to economy.
I think it's time American have someone with more than an average IQ in office, it's been a while coming.
Not to mentino that should McCain kicks the bucket, you'll have a hockey mum running the country. A woman who says she is experienced in foriegn relation because she can see Russia from Alaska. If that is not a reason alone to vote for the other side, i don't know what is.
If you watch McCain's speech, any speech there is a common theme to them. He eithers:-
1 - Attack Obama's economic policy, and any agenda
2 - Says he has more experience
He doesn't really tell you what he will do, he doesn't focus on himself and when he does, he only gives the briefest detail. He'll say under his plan he will create jobs, but he doesn't tell you how. He will tell you how his saved congress $6million 15 years ago, but he doesn't tell you how he will save the current financial housing market. Then before long he will attack Obama again. The guy can't focus on the issue in question, to make people want to elect him, not want to hear what he doesn't like about the other guy. Tell us why we should vote for him, not why we shouldn't vote for the other candidate.
Obama on the other hand, his speeches have all been really calm and eloquant. He actually lists points on how he tackles each particular problem, from medical, education to economy.
I think it's time American have someone with more than an average IQ in office, it's been a while coming.
Not to mentino that should McCain kicks the bucket, you'll have a hockey mum running the country. A woman who says she is experienced in foriegn relation because she can see Russia from Alaska. If that is not a reason alone to vote for the other side, i don't know what is.
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Obama not even because I'm liberally inclined. I do try to be independent and think of it objectively and to me he does seem to be the better candidate. I do have my doubts though about many of his promises. Obviously he won't be able to execute his entire vision so what promises will he cut back on?
UK has flaws and and will always have flaws. All in all its not doing so badly from my view or at least its doing better than the States atm. UK got their asses out of Iraq, they responded okay to the financial crisis (considering the dependence the UK has on their stock exchange and finance sector), they like Ireland opened their borders to the Eastern immigrants when other countries stuck up their noses, UK is actually doing things to combat global warming unlike the States.
America, lets face it has been going downhill since Clinton left office. The UK or at least aspects of it have seen at lot of improvement.
UK has flaws and and will always have flaws. All in all its not doing so badly from my view or at least its doing better than the States atm. UK got their asses out of Iraq, they responded okay to the financial crisis (considering the dependence the UK has on their stock exchange and finance sector), they like Ireland opened their borders to the Eastern immigrants when other countries stuck up their noses, UK is actually doing things to combat global warming unlike the States.
America, lets face it has been going downhill since Clinton left office. The UK or at least aspects of it have seen at lot of improvement.
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Obama - he's the lesser of two evils.
However, nothing much will change if he gets in. Some people seem under the impression that as soon as Obama gets to the Whitehouse everything will be better - the economy will zoom upwards, the US will pull out of the Middle East, and the streets will be filled with puppies and kittens
On the surface things may seem a bit more palatable, but the same old problems with still exist.
However, nothing much will change if he gets in. Some people seem under the impression that as soon as Obama gets to the Whitehouse everything will be better - the economy will zoom upwards, the US will pull out of the Middle East, and the streets will be filled with puppies and kittens
On the surface things may seem a bit more palatable, but the same old problems with still exist.It isn't about whether it works or not over there though. The view held by some is simple, and polarised - all socialism is evil. Period. The vast majority of the 'haves' may not go quite so far as evil, but instead use the next best thing - un-American. For example, any suggestion of providing a universal subsidised healthcare system would instantly be shot down in flames.